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Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan
My Camaro last Sept went pretty smooth. If I didn't have a trade in it wouldn't take long at all. Paperwork process, loans, etc. was just over 2 hours. The finance guy understood I didn't want extended warranties and I made it clear.
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That may be your particular experience but it does not always go as smoothly for everyone. Wait until you go to a dealership that has only 1 finance guy and you're in line behind 3 others. That 2 hours will turn into you driving home at 10 pm. Been there done that. Not to mention, you had a reasonable person you dealt with. Some of these other dealerships have guys who are very pushy. Maybe it won't work on someone going there to buy a Camaro SS. But they'll for sure take advantage of others. It happens all the time.
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Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan
The extended warranties on used cars are a waste. I either buy them used with warranty left on them, or so low miles that there likely isn't any issues. Also, the cars that vroom and Carmax sell tend to have more miles on them. I'm not buying a performance car with 38k miles. I can find them on dealer lots with under 25k miles.
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Not necessarily and definitely not so on cars like a Camaro or Mustang where it is more than likely that the previous owner beat the shit out of it and/or modded it to hell and returned it to stock when they turned it in. Or on cars like BMWs and other higher end vehicles where costs can get very expensive.
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Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan
I can't imagine buying a car online without looking it over, test driving it, etc.
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A lot of them give you the option to test drive and do a look over upon delivery and before you accept it. These places are not out to scam people, they're just priced high. And again, i wouldn't even consider it high priced. I just think the market itself is increasing.
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Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan
I guess for millennials who don't know how to negotiate because their dads never taught them then Vroom and Carmax easier, BUT you're paying 3-4 grand more for the same car.
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Not for nothing, but then that wouldn't be the Millennial's fault, now would it? It would be the fault of their Gen X parents who didn't teach them properly. And for the record, I am not a Millennial. However, I don't care to negotiate and I feel like I shouldn't have to. Negotiation is nothing more than favoritism. Why should I have to spend hours and hours negotiating while some other person can walk in and get that same price for being attractive or for being someone's nephew or this or that? I couldn't care less. I've been in dealerships where I saw someone get a killer deal while others didn't. And I walked right out of there because to me it is completely unfair. But to each their own. At least the online sites are offering the same prices to everyone. And for the record, those awesome prices you negotiated just meant that they absorbed the losses elsewhere and made up for it. $1K off the price for a car you bought just means bringing up the price elsewhere. Or a slight increase across the board. Or perhaps you just think you negotiated a good price when all along they inflated the price to begin with and you just talked them into bringing it down to what they were gonna list it at originally before inflating it. LOL!! Trust me, these dealerships are NOT suckers. You're not negotiating anything.
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Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan
The dealers were never closed here. The sales guy who sold me my Camaro said their sales tanked during the lockdown when unemployment was high last April and May and they had to lay some of the staff off as a result.
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Well up here in the Northeast while the Pandemic was raging thru every hospital I work in and we were all in crisis mode and our morgues were full and we had to get refrigerated trucks to store bodies in because we had no more room and where we ran out of vents and had no more hospital beds you can bet your ass that all the dealerships were closed even if for a short period of time. When they reopened it was with limited staff and by appointment only and even then you couldn't enter the place. So I'm glad everything was just peachy keen wherever you're from. But again, the online sites were pretty much the safest way to buy a car at that point.