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Old 05-13-2021, 09:45 PM   #11
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Driver technique definitely plays a part. As does track layout and a bunch of other variables.

The way I see it is, Early braking tends to be long, drawn out episodes that do nothing for the overall health of the brakes. Why? Because the amount of energy expelled in either type of technique is generally the same. Whether it be early, long and easy braking from 130 down to 70 mph or late, shorter and heavier braking from 130 to 70 mph or anything in between. Now it could be noted that the early braking driver probably isn't matching the same straightaway speed of the late braker, so that comparison isn't completely fair. But the time that heat energy has to soak into the braking components is reduced with a late braking. The temp rise is quicker with the late braking but there is less time for the heat to soak into the caliper and fluid before the cooling is ramped up from exit of a corner to the next straightaway. IOW, the race pads can heat things up more quickly, but that heating event tends to be shorter with the later braking techniques that race pads can allow. Either way cooling is critical.

The use of titanium shims is to slow the heat transfer into the pistons>calipers> fluid. Since more heat stays in the pad and rotors we better make sure the pad can handle it. The shims are only of benefit when used with pads that can take on high heat. The goal with titanium shims and vented pistons is to reduce the heat that the caliper and fluid sees. We are keeping more heat within the pad and rotor. But we better have a pad that can still do what it needs to do with that higher heat. And a rotor that has efficient cooling design and superior metallurgy. Do not run titanium shims with the OE pads. They will not like the increased heat and may fade.

High temp fluid is never a bad idea. Except what it can do to your wallet. But excellent fluid is the cheapest insurance you can buy. You should not be boiling SRF as long it is maintained, you have good cooling, and there's nothing crazy wrong with the brakes or the driver. The HP+ pads just do not have the heat capacity that is seen on the track. As Jason said, sending them back would be a good choice.

Late braking is something that can be worked up to. It takes a commitment and you better have your brakes in perfect maintained condition. But if you are a novice, you are better off at getting your lines and the exit and entry correct before you start experimenting with super late braking. Since we established that the lack of cooling was responsible to your brake issues, go back to the fundamentals. Late braking is an advanced level skill. While it is possible that a newer driver can get it done successfully, a new driver should be concentrating on the basics. Get the cooling up to snuff, maintain your fluid, learn about the components and how to recognize potential issues. Don't late brake for the sake of late braking. Your braking points may already be good! Don't let the lack of cooling cause you to re-write your playbook. See what other Camaro guys are doing, talk to them, find out what their ability level is. Watch what markers they are getting on the brakes at. Of course, your instructors will give great guidance.
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