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Originally Posted by Number 3
STOP! I get YOUR point. You are excusing GM from putting an interior in the Camaro that matches the price because of performance.
Please hear me. You CAN have all 3. Excusing GM for cheaping out on the interior of a $70,000 car, pickup truck or luxury car is not excusable.
I’m suggesting GM get its game in and you are defending GM because the ZL1 is awesome, which it is.
So to be even more clear, Mazda has a wonderful, near Audi interior in a $22,000 hatchback. Can’t the base Camaro at $30,000 do equally as well?
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Well then, give me an example of a car that gives me all 3 of them, using ZL1 1LE as a baseline (which lacks the interior). So basically, a brand new car with the same level of performance of ZL1 1LE, same price, and better interior. I am still waiting for you to give me an example.
Or maybe you couldn't find one because, just perhaps, it doesn't exist?
As I have said, this is a sports car. If you think Camaro interior is bad for $70k, I think you will have a heart attack when you see the interior of a Nissan GT-R.
Yeah Mazda has good interior but most of them are FWD(or FWD-based AWD) and the most powerful engine option is the 2.5T, which is a great engine for daily driving but it's not made to be a performance engine. Go back to when Mazda made real sports cars like FD RX-7. That interior is like C5 Corvette-level stuff. RWD inherently will cost more than a FWD to manufacture. And while we are at the $20k~$30k mark, go yell at Toyota and Nissan for the crappy interior on the 86 and 370Z, too. And make sure you don't leave Ford out with the Mustang. I am sure lots of their buyers are also complaining... Or are they?
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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior85
You're fighting a losing battle.
he places no value on interior features. He only values performance.
You could git the interior and put in a plywood dash wrapped in boat trailer carpet and he would still say the ZL1 is a great buy because of its performance.
He is the buyer Chevy made Camaro's for,
You are advocating for the normal people who have a certain level of expectations regarding what should come with a car at a given price.
Much like how a dealer will not give you much extra on trade in because you added underglow LEDs, a twin turbo kit, cam, intake and exhaust, because that value is subjective and may mean nothing to the next buyer who is simply looking for reliable transportation..... The fact that the Camaro can perform so well does not outweigh the $30,000 interior to somebody who expects a $70,000 car to feel like a $70,000 car on the inside
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Well okay I am not that minimalist. I am not ripping out the interior for weight reduction.
I say that,
given what's available on the market right now, I think Camaro's interior isn't bad.
I actually place some value on interior features. The 2SS is pretty good on that front with heated/ventilated seats, blindspot monitoring, etc. What I don't mind the fact that everything is hard plastic too much. I daily drive my car, but I don't live in the car so it's whatever. And it's fun enough that I don't even notice if it's hard plastic or some exotic wood carved out of a 1000-year old tree.
Someone who cares about interior of a $70k car will not be looking at a Camaro, or any pony car, or heck, any sports car to start with. They would probably be hitting a Mercedes or Lexus dealer instead.