[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Big Lebowski

Agree!



The numbers are what they are. 26% or 29% over the LIFE of the C7 is nothing to sneeze at regardless of trending. I could argue that the trend was influenced due to a higher % of later C7 model years were dealer ordered, as opposed to consumer/owner built which would explain the downward trajectory ...but I won't go there.

My point is Tadge repeatedly used a 15% manual transmission take rate on the C7 as justification for the elimination of the Manual trans on the C8. Not 26 or 29%. Why? Because doing so fit the narrative. This is flatly wrong and intentionally misleading, and I'm still not sure why.

Quote the correct take rate and say a manual doesn't fit where we are taking the brand. Done.



Yes, my argument has been "over the life" of the C7. I never said otherwise. I'm not skipping anything or trying to build a "business case" for anything. Again, you are regurgitating GM talking points that do not change my original point; Tadge intentionally misquoted the C7 manual trans take rate.

If Tadge was using a 15% number he was most likely not looking at what current sales or registration was at the time, he was looking at what Product Forecasting was telling him they would be in 2021, ‘22, ‘23....

And Forecasting would be taking into account the general expectation of where transmission types were expected to be in that time frame, based on the knowledge that C8 would have a top notch DCT. The forecasters would certainly reduce their outlook for an MT. Also to be considered... in the timeframe that this decision was being made, Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren and others were moving away from MT. Sure, Porsche backtracked on the decision, but they were the only ones to do so.