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Old 02-02-2020, 02:49 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by oldman View Post
I was addressing the general just blot a supercharger to the LT1 ENGINE fixes the car for all occasions.

It is the engine that is prone to heat, the ZL1 has lower comp forged piston, stronger rods, crank, head casting, VALVES!!!!, these are not minor issues to address. As you mention the ZL1 is also a tuned package. I'm not a big roadracer my bro is. I don't know how much faster a ZL1 vs a 1LE in a road race, gut feeling, $6500 injected into a NA 1le, it will be complete blow out, I'll let the forum figure which one is getting blown, pun intended.





The strength of the trans is directly related to the gear ratio and the spacing between the mainshaft and the countershaft, as the gear numeric ratio increased one gear gets smaller and it has to leverage a bigger gear the torque rating of the trans plunges as the sqr of the change.

Here is the actual Tremec doc:https://www.tremec.com/anexos/TREMEC_TR-6060_1017.pdf

I believe the 1le has the same trans as a SS so that torque limit is 560 ft-lbs.
This is from the dudes that make the transmission. So this same trans on the 2015 ZL1 was at the engine's design max torque:
https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/che...2015.tab1.html

When the Lt4 came out it required a stronger trans:
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=482277


go back to Tremec the guys that make the trans and sure enough the 2.29 first gear trans is rated at 650 ft - lbs.

And 2.29 Zl1 is way less torque multiplication like 60 ft pounds at the tailshaft. SS is 2.66
GM left it that way as the stock LT4 can easily destroy the back tires in 1st gear.

Looks like the ZLE comes with the 2.26, probably for a closer road race spacing.
You wrote a lot man but I wasn't saying anything about the lt1, internals, or cooling. Simply stating some of the things you said the zl1 one had over the ss (tires, wheels, suspension, elsd) are not so regarding the ss 1le, except for obviously the lt4.

You also said the zl1 has less gear than the ss, usually when people say that with out being specific they're talking about rear end gearing not gear by gear in the trans but you're right the ss first gear is definately more aggressive.

However that is wrong about the zl1 1le having a different first gear than the zl1. I believe only 6th gear is different, it's shorter and can actually be used for acceleration vs the regular zl1s super tall economy first gear.

Before you quote the table in the thread link you provided that says the zl1 has a 2.29 and the zle a 2.26 1st gear, note that it would claim the zle has a taller 6th gear which is obviously not right.
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