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Originally Posted by hotlap

Dissecting this source you can see why the ZL1 1LE was the better car. Not for subjective reasons either.

Below I bullet point the positive comments made about each car.

ZL1 1LE

• GT500's as-tested price of $94,665 is nearly $19,000 more than the Camaro
  
• Manual-transmission fans have an easy choice as the Chevy offers a standard six-speed manual.
  
• 200 pounds less mass
  
• with a weight distribution closer to 50/50
  
• beats the GT500 to 60 mph by .2 second, 3.4 seconds versus 3.6
  
• the Camaro averaged a fuel economy of just 14 mpg, a single mile per gallon ahead of the Mustang
  
• Its range, however, is far superior to the Shelby's. The Mustang's fuel tank is only 16 gallons,
  
• Camaro also outgripped and outstopped the Mustang, with a 1.17-g skidpad performance
  
• and stops from 70 mph in 137 feet
  
• and from 100 mph in 268 feet.
  
• The ZL1 is more stable, and it puts its power down better
  
• a more sophisticated traction-control system,
  
• and an excellent electronic limited-slip differential
  
• Camaro is easier to drive quickly. The fun is more accessible and therefore more easily enjoyed.
  
• the Mustang's steering is numb compared to the Camaro's, and its chassis isn't as sorted.
  
• Camaro's Recaro seats are even more comfortable
  
• ZL1 was also packed with features not found on our Mustang, including navigation, heated and cooled seats, a heated steering wheel, a back seat, power seats, and wireless phone charging.
  
• the winner is the Camaro. Its biggest advantage is that it's simply a better value.
  
• but the more affordable ZL1 1LE manages to match or surpass the Shelby's performance while offering a much longer list of features.

GT500 CFTP

• 5.2-liter supercharged double-overhead-cam 32-valve V-8 not only revs to 7500 rpm, it produces 760 horsepower at 7300 rpm
  
• The Shelby's engine is significantly louder than the Camaro's,
  
• outruns the Camaro to 100 mph by .3 second,
  
• and by 150 mph the gap is stretched to more than 4.0 seconds.
  
• Mustang's 11.4-second run at 132 mph just besting the Camaro's time of 11.5 seconds at 124 mph
  
• On the street, we prefer the Shelby's brake feel and firm pedal action,
  
• and the response and precision of its dual-clutch transmission nearly rivals Porsche's PDK.
  
• The Mustang's suspension is al dente, while the Camaro's is uncooked.
  
• digital gauge cluster also clashes with the cars born-from-the-1960s sensibility, the graphics are appealing and informative
  
• Mustang's interior looks, feels, and functions better than the Camaro's
  
• attention to detail and thoughtful design are also found under the Shelby's hood. With a magnesium strut tower brace, carbon-fiber composite panels, and a menacing cobra emblem atop its supercharger, its engine compartment

I think his comment was more aimed at the journalist sources for doing their best to not give us detailed information.

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

I think some of the postponement was Ford was waiting the HP output of the ZR1 755hp monster. Plus, Ford spent so much time on the Mach-E instead of the GT500.

That is what their problem is. Waiting to see what others are doing instead of building the car properly. GM didn't need to know anything about the GT500 or whatever Ford was up to. And it turns out that they built the 6th Gen Camaros soo well that Ford still can't catch up even when benchmarking them. Ford has to wait to see what everyone else does, then try to match them, and still falls short.

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Imo The ZL1 will be more traction limited then a GT500 on unprepped surfaces. It has a small PD supercharger on a bigger engine. The LT4 peak torque is in the 3k rpm range. The GT500 should have less traction issues if anything. Much bigger supercharger on a smaller engine that makes peak torque around 4500rpm. LT4 makes quite a bit more torque in the 2-4k rpm range. The 2650 is a bit softer then the little 1.7 on the hit.

All testing has shown the exact opposite tho. The 500 has been losing 0.7 to 0.9 sec going from prepped tracks and perfect conditions to unprepped tracks and less ideal conditions. The ZL1 has maybe fluctuated by about 2-3 tenths.