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Old 01-16-2020, 11:09 PM   #6451
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Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10
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Originally Posted by hotlap View Post
Compose yourself. I couldn’t care less if you like or dislike the ZL1.

You’ve been riding Blaq’s ass for making the exact same observation that Car & Driver did.

The ZL1 1LE is “simply a better value” and “ZL1 1LE manages to match or surpass the Shelby's performance while offering a much longer list of features
He has been awful quiet since the GT500's spanking. I think he went back to his home forum to console his buddies.
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Originally Posted by Evansa22 View Post
Article was a good read, only thing I didn't really agree with was one of the cons for the camaro. It says the body roll is notable, for me the car is point and shoot. No real perceivable roll for me but maybe my palate isn't as refined. Haven't driven too many sports cars, but maybe other people can elaborate. Do you agree with their statement? How's it compare to other similar cars? Just wondering and thanks for the info
I have not noticed any body roll at all. It has been pretty much point and shoot, like you said. If anything, at high speed cornering, the tires might give out if going too fast or if they are cold. But that's about it. Now I'll have to drive mine to see for myself.

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Originally Posted by ST1LE View Post
Yeah, this is really bad for the CFTP.

We have been saying all along that they better really bring it at $94K, and honestly it fell on its face in this comparison.

While I don't get excited about fake badges trying to conjure a time that is long over, I can see the allure it has for some and don't knock that. I dont see these cars as real Shelbys in the end of the day tbh, they are just a Ford product with a badge on it.

All that said..........you can get that badge without the CFTP, so if it isn't faster than a ZLE, then what the hell is the point in spending $94K when you get so little for it in comparison?
Yup! Even shaffe said that winning against the ZLE alone would not be enough...the 500 would have to win in a convincing manner and by a large margin to justify it's worth. And it didn't do that.

Maybe they can have their engineers work after hours and off the clock in another 6 years and cook up an even higher version GT500...GT500 CF-2! Maybe then they'll beat the ZLE.
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