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Old 01-16-2020, 01:26 PM   #6417
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Originally Posted by TreedYou View Post
Related question about the whole un-prepped/prepped surface thing that comes up a ton.


Where else but a drag strip can you get a 1/4 time for you car?

Saying "ran the 1/4 on an un-prepped surface" doesn't make any sense because where else are you going to run the quarter mile?

I mean you're at the drag strip to begin with to get the best time out of the car you came there with so I'm a bit confused about that whole line.

At the drag strip there is never an un-prepped surface, you're at a drag strip.
And on the street there is no tree with time traps...


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Also to pepper in something else, talking about times on these cars that have automatically shifting transmissions can't you just take any driver skill out of the conversations?

All you really have to do is keep your hands on the steering wheel. So saying "pro-driver" in an automatic car that does all the works sounds a bit off, nah mean jelly bean?
What can one driver in an automatic possibly do that a trained monkey can't do? hold the steering wheel straighter?
Since your last statements prove that you are incapable of holding an intellectual conversation this will be my last reply to you.


There are plenty of places where you can race legally that are not a drag strip. This was discussed several times in the past here as well. On top of different strips having different levels of prep. Also like I said, it isn't just ONE variable but several variables including temps/DA, heat soak...20 MPH headwinds LOL!! Even on prepped drag strips the typical claim from the Mustang crowd goes back to DA and other factors. Nah mean jelly bean? Or do you need a trained monkey to further explain this to you? Also, exactly how many more times will I have to write this all out for one of you who wander over here? You know, for people who profess to be such track rats you guys need an awful lot of explanations on factors that you yourselves make claims of.


EDIT: I actually had no intentions of replying to you. I saw the reply and thought I was replying to Last standard. But since I already wrote and sent this I will leave it up.
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Originally Posted by shaffe View Post
Yes and no. Yes I would have to agree that based on manufacturer claims, the ZL1 is less susceptible to different conditions than the GT500 is.

However in THIS particular test, we see the conditions affected both cars by +/- a half second almost. Ford claims 10.7 on prepped surface, GM claims 11.3 on unprepped surface. This test showed a 6/10th difference for the Ford and 4/10th difference for the Chevy based on manufacturer claims.

Other tests show a similar 6/10th to almost 8/10th difference in the Mustang vs only maybe a 1/10th or 2 for the ZL1. So based on that I would have say conditions affect the ZL1 less.
Shaffe, 10.7 to 11.3 for the 500 is 6 tenths. But 11.3 to 11.6 for the ZL1 is 3 tenths. That is half the time difference. Plus were those claims from Ford not for the Base 500? And it has done 11.5 which is a 9 tenths difference. Am I right? The GT500 has been all over the place from 10.6 to 11.5.
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