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Originally Posted by TheRealJA105
The Mustangs do sound better, but it's so laughable when that's how they win a head to head after they lost every performance metric.
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I personally did not mind that the 350 won because it was just their opinion. All I wanted to know was what the performance numbers were and the pricing between the two. Anyone with an opinion can write an article and proclaim this or that as the winner and it wouldn't mean much.
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Originally Posted by TheRealJA105
I think they are taking the PP2s fastest lap, so the first hot lap. I also didn't realize, until this article, that the PP2 has more tire than the 350. Like why wouldn't Ford put the 305s on the "updated" 350 now????????
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So they are comparing fastest lap for fastest lap or are they comparing each lap? Like, PP2's best lap is the first one and 350's best lap was the 3rd one and those got compared? Or they compared PP2 lap 1 to 350 lap 1 and so on? Because that info could be very misleading depending on the methods they used?
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Originally Posted by TheRealJA105
As others have said, they've done it before. Ford is scared and covering their ass.
Yep, but I doubt we'll see the real comparison we all want because of Ford not allowing it.
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I don't think Ford realized the fight they were getting into against the ZL1 and ZLE...and based on price, against the Z06. I'll leave the ZR1 out just to be fair. I think we would have seen a match up by now if the 500 had a shot of winning.
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Originally Posted by TheRealJA105
You are kind of condescending on the PP2 vs GT350 metrics and 1LE vs ZL1 metrics, but also have a great point that the 1LE is lighter so it should be better at those metrics. I do think the PP2 only wins those because of the tires though. Tires are the biggest performance aspect on all of these cars and alot of people do not understand that.
Yeah I just love it when the Mustang fanbois are losing at all performance conversations so they bring up sales. We aren't debating sales here.
Agree on the multiple years of Ford fumbles and failures.
So spot on that it's still slow, unreliable, and even more expensive.
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The main point is that the GT350 despite it's cost and the more powerful engine and trans is now relegated to battling the PP2 which was built using half measures. And even against the PP2 there is still some areas where it does not perform as good. The 350 could have been optioned up to $60K and then put up against the C8. Or the 350R. But we won't get to see that. But we did get to see a C8 optioned up by well over $10K and put up against a GT500. Would the 350 (non-R) have done as well if it was put up against the ZL1?