CAMARO6 - View Single Post - Useable power level before loss of traction for a street Camaro

JROC · 12-28-2019, 09:18 AM

IMO its subjective. Different people give different opinions on what's manage power, and what's too much power in any given platform. Even a stock LT1 will have no problem spinning into 2nd without T/C if you just go balls to the wall with it.

I used to DD an 03 Cobra for years. It put down 490 WHP/502 LB-FT. On street tires I could spin 3rd up to around 75 MPH on a cool day. On 555R's from about a 5 MPH roll on a warm day, on a good road it would dead hook 1st. If you ask the internet 2/3 of it will tell you that 555R's are the biggest POS tires out there, and they hook no better than most performance summer tires, and that you need M/T, Hoosier, BFG, etc DR's. That's not to say others haven't had traction issues with 555R's, but at the 500 WHP level I found them to be an excellent all around compromise. People want to ride around in 600+ WHP cars and expect them to dead hook on the street. That's not realistic if you aren't a disciplined driver. You need to learn when and where you can feed your car throttle without going full Mustang.... Ummm I mean retard, and crashing into people.

I can tell you right now an Alpha platform is much more composed and capable of putting down power than an old SN95. I see no reason that the chassis shouldn't be able to keep most of its stock composer at 550-600 WHP on good street tires without having to drive too conservatively with it. Just remember that more power = easier tire spin. I think a GEN6 SS would make a very fun and ideal car for a max effort, stock bottomend, N/A LT1 build. A N/A 500-550 WHP would make this a very fun street car. Kind of like a N/A 420-450 WHP made for a very fun GEN4. Not the fastest things on the street, but fun, enjoyable, fairly safe power. Trying to manage too much power by driving overly conservative can be less fun than just having a car with manageable power. JMO.

12-28-2019, 09:18 AM	#9
JROC Account Suspended Drives: 19 Camaro SS 1LE, 03 Ford Lightning Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: South Carolina Posts: 334	IMO its subjective. Different people give different opinions on what's manage power, and what's too much power in any given platform. Even a stock LT1 will have no problem spinning into 2nd without T/C if you just go balls to the wall with it. I used to DD an 03 Cobra for years. It put down 490 WHP/502 LB-FT. On street tires I could spin 3rd up to around 75 MPH on a cool day. On 555R's from about a 5 MPH roll on a warm day, on a good road it would dead hook 1st. If you ask the internet 2/3 of it will tell you that 555R's are the biggest POS tires out there, and they hook no better than most performance summer tires, and that you need M/T, Hoosier, BFG, etc DR's. That's not to say others haven't had traction issues with 555R's, but at the 500 WHP level I found them to be an excellent all around compromise. People want to ride around in 600+ WHP cars and expect them to dead hook on the street. That's not realistic if you aren't a disciplined driver. You need to learn when and where you can feed your car throttle without going full Mustang.... Ummm I mean retard, and crashing into people. I can tell you right now an Alpha platform is much more composed and capable of putting down power than an old SN95. I see no reason that the chassis shouldn't be able to keep most of its stock composer at 550-600 WHP on good street tires without having to drive too conservatively with it. Just remember that more power = easier tire spin. I think a GEN6 SS would make a very fun and ideal car for a max effort, stock bottomend, N/A LT1 build. A N/A 500-550 WHP would make this a very fun street car. Kind of like a N/A 420-450 WHP made for a very fun GEN4. Not the fastest things on the street, but fun, enjoyable, fairly safe power. Trying to manage too much power by driving overly conservative can be less fun than just having a car with manageable power. JMO.