11-20-2019, 10:06 AM
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#4588
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Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Tampa Florida
Posts: 1,981
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Originally Posted by shaffe
Ok you got me there. Point Blaq lol
This is all mean to just be friendly banter -
5.2L FPC V-8, over 500 HP NA, Carbon Fiber wheels (R) - still things that no other car offers in that price range.
And we need to go back to when it came out, it had more options, more hp, was faster than the Z/28 in the MT head 2 head. (LL Z/28 put better time) The GT350R undercut the Z/28 price by 12K and even if you loaded it up with options (which you couldn't do with the Z/28) was still around 6K cheaper than the Z/28. (yes short sighted goal) but that is what was out at the time, and at the time there was nothing like the Z/28 or the GT350R. The 350R took the Z/28 formula and did it better, offered the customer the chance to add back in the tech that was deleted if they wanted, performed better. 4 years ago there was nothing like those two cars and it put the world on notice that GM and Ford could build track cars. With the benefit of watching things unfold over the last 4 years yes we can say time has caught up and performance has passed the 350. yes when GM moved to the 6th gen they pushed the needle even farther and farther and bravo to them. They are building some of the best performing cars right now.
Like I said, it seems you only look at the bottom line of performance as the only thing that matters I am surprised you don't have a Tesla Model S lol.
Now I know it doesn't matter to you since bottom line performance is the only factor that is important but
GT350 and R has wins in magazine tests against the Z/28, ZL1, Porsche 718 Cayman, M2, Supra. The R finished second in Best Drivers Car as did the revised regular 350. It lost to the C7 in I think it was a C&D head to head that's pretty damn good company if you ask me.
There is obviously something very appealing about the car - that is where the stuff you say is totally made up comes from. People are still buying it, reviews still love it.
Are there better performing cars for the same or less moneys yes. No denying that, but the GT350 obviously has the it factor
And the point about the C8 losing to a Hyundai in PCOTY was just that, it's not just about all out performance. Same goes with MT best drivers car- it's not always the best performing car that wins- sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. Fun to drive factor, how engaging it is etc etc. If it was just all about performance there would be no point in anyhead to head test, just run the tests, look at the stat sheet and that's the winner.
I guess the jist of what I am saying is, if I am buying a performance car and one is a better performer but the other one brings me more joy driving - I am gonna take the one that puts a bigger smile on my face because I am not always going to be in a situation where I need/can use all that performance.
But none of that seems to matter so I don't know why I bothered lol It's all good different strokes for different folks
LOL you will never change my mind about that when discussing them its MSRP to MSRP - to many variables in price paid to have consistent discussion
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I agree with most of what you said.
I would prefer a gt350r over a z28 all day unless the plan was to make an n/a heads cam car down the road. Pretty comparable cars but the 350r just offers more for the money and it's a newer better chassis than the zeta on the z28.
Not knocking on the z28, still a badass car in its own right.
I still would have liked to have seen the ss 1le vs that gt350 when they put it against the c7 z51. The c7 beat it and the 1le is in many ways a better performer than the z51, but without the corvette or Shelby specialness.
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