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Old 10-29-2019, 10:29 PM   #4194
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Originally Posted by RagingHawk View Post
4170 is what I seen listed for the track pack by a widely viewed reviewer. He may have made a mistake though.

Looks are subjective. Both look good to me but I'd say the ZL1 has an edge since I'm not really digging the front fascia of the GT500.

Why would you argue it's a better value(assuming you can get it at MSRP)? Because of the extra power and 1/4 mile time?

I'm not talking about the reviewers, I'm talking about the general car community and especially muscle car fanboys. They will praise this car for its 1/4 mile time. And declare it the top dog based on that factor alone. Which is something that bothers me as I would never purchase a car based off of bragging rights.

The CFTP car will get great track times no doubt. Although look at what it needs to get that. 100 more hp, wider tires, huge brake rotors(bigger than ZL1), carbon fiber wheels, DCT transmission, beefier suspension bits, carbon fiber driveshaft, etc.

All of this needed to decrease weight whilst simultaneously beat the ZL1 in track times shows they were working with an inferior chassis/platform. So don't get me wrong, I like the car and support anything American, although it's clear to me which one will be an overall more balanced car. Just slower in a straight line. And that is the ZL1.

I would also wait for more reviews. I haven't seen anyone track it yet. Which is where we will see detailed impressions on the driving dynamics. Which I expect to be good because Ford had a lot of time to tune the driving dynamics of the car.
Better value because it's only $8k more than an auto ZL1 yet significantly quicker acceleration. Assuming the base model holds its own on a track, it's a $74k car that accelerates harder than any other car this side of a ZR1, which starts at around $125k.

Read Motor Trend's review for one perspective of it's track capabilities. I linked it a few pages ago and again below. The glowing review was based on the track prowess of the CFTP version. The dude finished his track time and was speechless, his mind was blown. C&D and MT both compared it to a Porsche 911 GT2 RS for Pete's sake, and not because of the acceleration. MT called it a supercar and one of the best sports cars in the world, without a caveat on price. The ZLE is no doubt great, but the CFTP may be just as great, or better, we'll see. Here's the opening of the article:

""My gawd," was the first thing, the only thing I could say after hot-lapping the 760-horsepower 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 on a track. "What a thing!" (C'mon, Walton, pull yourself together, use proper descriptors.) "I mean, a helluva thing, a monster!"

I was literally a few words shy of speechless, the Shelby GT500 was such a revelation. Like the mid-engine 2020 Corvette does, this American icon pushes the limits, and the Europeans, to the edge of what we once thought possible. I don't write glibly when I say it is both a sobering and enthusiastic realization."


https://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford...es-everything/

The CFTP tires are actually the same width in the front (305) and narrower in the rear (315 CFTP vs 325 ZLE) compared to the ZLE. So they are not wider tires, assuming you meant wider than the ZLE.

I highly doubt it could be clear to you which will be the better balanced car if you haven't driven both of them.

To most people, drag racing and acceleration capabilities are more important than road course capabilities. So in their mind, the GT500 is clearly the top dog. On a track with turns, that remains to be seen, but Billy Johnson has already said on video the car will beat its competitors on a track. I don't know why he would say that if it wasn't true.
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