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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The thing is that the Redeye has a drag race setup. It was built specifically for drag racing and has some Demon features. The ZR1 is extremely lightweight. The GT500 has neither of those things going for it. It is not lightweight and it is not drag specific. Also it does not have the HP Redeye nor the TQ of the Redeye and ZR1. I think it will be fast with a tire. But I don't think we'll see it match what those cars can do.

lol

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Anybody who calls the zl1 and 11.4 or 11.5 car should refer to the gt500 as an 11.2 car. Because that 10.6 run is no different than a 10.9 hero run four tu e zl1 on the fast list or the zr1s 10.2 fast list time.

what about 10.8/ & 10.9 s at 130+ from other drivers in vegas? I was there

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I hope GM does not try to respond with the Camaro in this Gen. That is the mistake Ford made with the S550 which is ultimately why they had to wait 6 years for something remotely respectable. The ZL1 proved itself. At it's price and for what you get it is still the king. GM needs to continue what they do best, keep moving forward.

Your faculties must be diminished. You gave incorrect info about the track event. You said there were only Base GT500s and you were wrong. Posted in case you try to lie.

There were Base AND CF GT500s there. Which I said. Then I posted this
Nothing I said was incorrect because I said "maybe" and "perhaps". I said nothing definitive about what was ran. At that event they did not say which version of the GT500 was ran and they only posted 2 runs...one was 11.07 and the other was a slower time. You then speculated that one ran 10s. There was no proof of that at the time because nobody was allowed to post that info. So you made speculations and I did as well. Nowhere did I make a definitive statement on what was ran. So your criticism is a bit uncalled for when you did the exact same effing thing bro. You're just mad because my speculation was contrary to yours and you want us over here to play cheerleader to the GT500. Ain't gonna happen.
You seem like that is something you want to believe. And that is fine with me.

yes, base for the strip, cftp for the roadcourse. they are fast, very very fast. some of the fastest cars ive been in, and its been plenty

If acknowledgement is what you want then sure, the reviewers seem to be madly in love with the GT500 based solely off what it did in the quarter mile. Taking nothing else into account the car performed as well as a 760 HP Mustang that costs $74K should perform. So congrats to Ford for building a GT500 that did what it should do.
thanks, they deserve the credit

The reviewers also seemed very disappointed in how the C8 Z51 performed. It ran 11.1 with only 495 HP and can be had for $65K and it beat the outgoing Z51 around a track by almost a full second as well as almost a full second in the quarter mile. But the understeer which prevented them from drifting the car around a corner and the reduced braking ability relegated the C8 to basically a piece of crap that GM could have made much better despite the price tag and inherent costs of switching to a ME design.

LOL! Just joking to show you what a petty statement would look like.

I'm not concerned with any subjective views on any of these cars shaffe and you know that. I've not once taken those statements seriously even when it was in favor of the Camaro. Like when they posted favorably in regards to how the SLE feels compared to the GT PP2. I never took those statements to be anything other than someone else's opinion. You know that fully well also. I have always taken the objective data as being the only relevant information for me. And I have always stated that the performance of these cars is all that matters. The objective data and the performance so far shows the Z51 and the ZL1 as being superior cars to the GT500. I have not seen anything to change my mind on that. If you'd care to debate it then I'll do so. But don't try to paint me as some petty whiny punk who is mad about a favorable review for the GT500. Hell, they loved the GT350R and placed it as the winner of the H2H and I've acknowledged that time and again. In fact I am glad that they love the GT500 as much as they do. Ford has been soo far behind the game for soo long that they need this win. Good for them. But you need to give me some credit here man.

Originally Posted by RagingHawk

I think we're looking at a minimum of 100K OTD to get into the base GT500. All the way up to 130K OTD for the Track Pack. Which is a lot of money. And I'm not the type to put down a car like this for the price then turn around and tell you a 90K Cayman is worth it. Neither are worth those price tags to me. But that's because I don't see a reason to spend more than 100K on a car like I used to as a kid. If I'm spending anything more than 100K it has to be a special two door coupe with a weight well below 4200 LB's.... Something like a C7 Z06 or something very flashy like an Hurucan or McLaren GT.

mine was 83 + 3k tax.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The best it did so far was 11.1 and I think that was at 121 or 122 MPH.

what about 10.8/ & 10.9 s at 130+ from other drivers in vegas? I was there
I notice that whenever they run a Mustang they make sure to detail every single thing that might make it look better. 10 MPH Headwind, humidity, whatever. When the ZL1 ran 11.4 we didn't hear any excuses on why. When the C8 did 11.1 I don't remember any details on the run. So the GT500 did a 11 flat period. Plain and simple. If it happens to go faster at some other point in time then so be it. But to sit here trying to make it look better than what it looks like is silly.

yes, i like the data, not unlike SAE dynojet corrections.. lol at 550hp c8+121 trap speed

Not for nothin, but at this point it is only 4 tenths faster than the ZL1, 1 tenth faster than the C8 Z51, a little over 1 tenth slower than the C7 Z06, and slower than the ZR1. Each of those cars with exception of the ZR1 and Z06 is significantly cheaper BTW (Z06 is right around the same price). And it is slower than the RE and slower than what we have seen from the Hellcat.

I would say at this point it ain't lookin good for the GT500 if the best it could do is 11 flat. If it gets a 10.9 then that still isn't really all too impressive. It is even worse if that is the CF version which I assume it is since they don't mention it.

base is faster in the 1/4 than cftp

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Neither did the GT500.

yes it did, several times