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Originally Posted by Petrol Head
I wish the UAW understood everything you said here. Same for me.... I would love to have the Camaro built right where it’s built right now in East Lansing with the same exact people building it only non-union.
Does everyone know the biggest factor as to why it took GM 7+ years to bring the Camaro back to production after the 4th gen ended in 2002? Because UNIFOR insisted the only way GM could close the St. Therese Quebec plant was to guarantee no car with the nameplate of Camaro or Firebird would be built at any other North American union plant for at least 5 years.
That’s the kind of mentality unions have. GM probably could have released the 5th gen sooner were it not for that. The initial 5th gen concept was released at the 2006 NAIAS.
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Yes that was the agreement GM made in order to close the plant, but if you were fully correct there would have been a 2006 Camaro rather than a 2010.
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Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM
So you're saying you paid 94k and accepted a truck with a ton of problems? Regardless of the issues I would not accept it because I would check it all out beforehand. If you get too excited about things, you bring a friend or spouse to calm you. (there also is no excuse for putting together shit product)
So you were brought up on union wages and now thinks it's a joke......
I've said it in here before and I'll say it again 95% of those reading this thread wouldn't make it in a factory doing 45-60 cars an hour. Same goes for all the dealership horseshit heroes who could not make a living spinning wrenches.
The complain about the cost of things without regard for the actual reasons why other than parroting what they heard.
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Sorry I think you have it backwards. 95% could. It’s hard work but there are certainly more physically demanding jobs. I’ve walked the line in a large number of plants and your assertion is way too high. Now a non air conditioned plant in Mexico........oh wait a huge number in my companies plant in Mexico are women and they donAWESOME work.
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Originally Posted by Charles56
3.8 doesn't know a damned thing about me. My dad landed that union job after I had started my own business.
What was impressive about that Fisher Body plant was the size of the presses it took to stamp a body panel. And the tool and die makers are true craftsmen. They made the male and female dies for hood,roof,trunk and door panels for Buick,Oldsmobile and Cadillac. They had no CNC machines. They started with thick slabs of steel and hand ground them to shape using grinders and a set of blueprints.
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That was how they did it back in the 50s. It’s been a long time since dies weren’t machined. Of course finishing remains the final step.