[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by oldman

I think I understook. I'm pointing out AGAIN that lowering springs are mainly for looks. While the 1LE and the ZL1 / 1LE springs are for performace.

This is a direct quote for the slammer springs:
"Our engineers have designed the Camaro Lowering Suspension Upgrade System components to lower vehicle ride height and help improve handling feel. The kit uses higher-rate front and rear coil springs along with specifically tuned struts and shocks to provide an integrated package to lower the vehicle ride height up to 20 mm while optimizing handling feel[."


So you get almost an 20mm or .787" down springs and you get "handling feel" whatever that means. NOWHERE does it say you get actual handling. Because we all know lowering springs don't make a car handle. Or do we?

For reference, the 1LE spring is .337" down and it built for handling, not just "handling feel". That is less than 1/2 the drop!!!!

What the SS lacked for SURE in the above test was a decent set of springs... and / or a decent set of springs and dampers.

So question for you, just theoretical of course. (don't know what PTM is but assume it is some sort of setting on the control for the eLSD and magride). 1LE vs SS with 1LE wheels and tires, and the ZL1 / 1LE springs, DSSV and bars, 6 pot calipers. Which is a better road race or track setup? IE is the eLSD, magride, and electrical gee wiz "better" than the DSSV?


here is what gm says about their DSSV kit:"Born on the track, designed for the ZL1 1LE, and tested to the extreme in Trans Am TA4 competition, the ZL1 1LE Spec Multimatic Lowering and Handling Suspension Upgrade System is for the serious on-track enthusiast looking for the fastest times around a track at the sacrifice of street comfort. Multimatic DSSV dampers, combined with front and rear coil springs, and a ZL1 1LE spec front sway bar, reduce ride height by up to 10mm and offer a 22% decrease in roll gradient, a 245% increase in front spring stiffness"


Here it clearly states the kit is to make your ride have the "fastest times around a track". Ride height is 10mm down (.394") (which is just a smiggen lower than the 1LE spring). Front springs are HECK a stiff. They are designed for handling not "handling feel".


So if GM's top of the dog road race package is 10mm down and they went to 245% STIFFER sping what does that tell you about the roll center of the car and what you get on a "handling feel" at 20mm down? That extra 10mm is a heck of role center loss and camber loss. But I'm sure the 20mm springs do "look" fast..

Here is a way to frame it, take two 1LEs, put the GM slammer springs on one, how much slower is it 1 second? maybe 2 seconds... right. slammer springs can't be compared to 1LE springs nor Zl1 1LE springs.

I don't have a dog in this hunt as I'm convinced the DSSV is the better damper and even though I have NOT gotten to the suspension yet (other than fooling around with lowering the rear for street fighting). I specifically did not order the MRC just because I had a feeling a DSSV package would come out.

I can tell the Camaro team did test a few setups and the production 1SS with the lowering kit ,handling kit with the SS 1Le tire did better times then 1SS on DSSV suspension kit . Neither was as quick around the track then the SS 1Le.