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Old 08-12-2019, 10:22 AM   #2996
shaffe


 
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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole View Post
That wasn't the point shaffe. The point was that you can't say "weight per HP" anymore because those equations are antiquated. Also because there are many more factors that influence how a vehicle performs. I'm not talking about DRs. But since you brought it up, GM had those GY tires on the ZL1 that are basically as close to DRs as it gets without being a DR. Aftermarket tires are not making much improvement if any improvement at all over the stock ZL1 tires. And as far as the rest, that is exactly what I'm saying. That the 6th Gen Camaro made huge strides over the 5th Gen Camaro despite only having a 29 HP difference. It was because of al those things you mentioned (which I have been mentioning). The trans, tires, chassis, tuning, etc. So how is it that you can't seem to fathom that a Vette with a mid-engine design, 40 more HP, a way better trans, less weight, (presumably) better tuning, and a whole gang of advancements cannot make such a huge jump? We literally just saw a 455 HP 6th Gen Camaro SS beat a 580 HP 5th Gen ZL1 3 years ago. GM overcame a 125 HP difference easily. So how is it this difficult to understand that it is possible? They also literally have been saying that they cannot push the front engine design any further and that is why they switched to the mid engine design. And the literally just said that the Z51 will outperform the Z06 in every way. So I'm not getting how this is that complicated.

Well if they haven't then that shows just how good GM is at building performance cars. Because if they need all that much more HP to do what GM claims they are doing with "only" 495 HP, then that says a lot.
We are just going to go around and around in circles lol. I'll remain skeptical until we see the numbers. I'll be first to admit when I am wrong if I am wrong and i'll happily be wrong.

So for it to outperform the Z06 in every way.

0-60 less than 2.95
1/4 mile less than 10.95
Top Speed of over 205MPH

If that really is the baseline for a Z51 god only knows what the high performance variants will do.
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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT View Post
Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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