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Old 01-22-2019, 03:18 PM   #549
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Originally Posted by V8 Fan View Post
That recall does NOT affect ALL GT350s. My R was built after the affected date range. So, you were yet again being disingenuous by stating that ALL GT350s were recalled.
I wasn't being "disingenuous". I simply did not care enough to read the entire thing. Back when we first discussed this a year ago it was all of them...at that time. So that is the info I was going off of. If Ford did something to address the issue on the newer ones then good for them. But it shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
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Originally Posted by V8 Fan View Post
Where in the world are you getting that Ford extended the S550 program?? Stop telling lies.
Lies?
https://www.hotcars.com/ford-mustang-7th-gen-delayed/

Here it is right on your favorite forum too:
https://www.mustang6g.com/report-7th...nches-in-2021/

CJ Pony Parts reported on it:
https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/news/2021-mustang

Another report, this one by Auto Blog:
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/28/...-delayed-2021/

So we're all liars? Funny how you weren't aware of this.
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Originally Posted by V8 Fan View Post
The entire lineup has been a failure? According to whom? Being the continual sales leader of a segment doesn't sound like a failure to me.
Sales don't matter to me. Performance wise, reliability wise, and everything in between from keeping up with the competition to offering comparable vehicles of comparable performance with similar options...Ford has been in dead last for the majority of the S550's life-time. It started out as the slowest of the Big Three's best offerings. It's had multiple incidents of driveline failures. Along with many other issues like axles snapping, the first of the 18s snapping driveshafts in testing, engine oil consumption problems, and more that I won't get into. Most of us here are very well aware of all the problems that Ford has had with the S550 Mustangs so there isn't any need to go over it yet again.
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Originally Posted by shaffe View Post
And that's the ultimate goal is to sell vehicles
The ultimate goal is to make a profit. You can sell vehicles all day. But if your profit margins are too low then sales figures won't matter...or you'd have to sell even more.

I'll agree that Ford does sell a lot. But I also think that is due to them having Mustangs that are cheap enough that they can offer some very low deals on them. The Camaro doesn't seem to have that type of strategy. Maybe GM will start to offer some cheaper versions or trim levels so they can get these cars into more hands. Maybe they make enough off the ones that do sell that it isn't worth addressing. None of us knows the answer for sure.
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