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Old 01-18-2019, 10:28 AM   #410
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Originally Posted by collinms View Post
That comment (in the link) is a loser's statement. I used to race a guy who every time before we raced either said something was wrong with his car or that he wasn't really trying to beat on his car that night. So if he lost he didn't look bad and if he won then he looked even better. Ford got this statement out which to me is insurance so that if the GT500 doesn't hit it's mark, then they'll be spared humiliation. But lets see...over 700 HP, DCT 7 speed, 6 years in development...why the hell would they think that anyone would believe such a bullshit statement??
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Originally Posted by hotlap View Post
Are you referring to the GT or a GT* compared to the SS?

This is typical Ford. A specific combination that can is quoted by all the guys that own the version the is compromised

* GT, A10, PP, Michelin PS, 3.55 in drag race mode


Yup!!
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Originally Posted by ST1LE View Post
"slowest of all three manufacturer's offerings" were your exact words. Ford does offer THE slowest in their manual Mustang GT.

I know why you dont want to talk about that car though, so let's say the intention was to say "Slowest of all three manufacturer's FASTEST offerings".....fair enough.....carry on hahahaha.

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Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium View Post
You're delusional if you think that GM never has to counter what Ford Performance does. It took Chevy 4 years to match the acceleration of the 2013 GT500 (traps 126 mph in the 1/4 mile with massively tall gearing). You have conveniently forgotten to mention that. Isn't that about what the 2019 ZL1 and Hellcat are trapping? By your logic, the 2013 GT500 was ahead of its time in power/acceleration. As I mentioned before, it also took Chevy a year or two to respond to the GT350R with the ZL1, the GT350R being a faster track car than the Z28 (the 5th Gen ZL1 wasn't even close). Yes, it's taken them some time, but Ford is now responding to the ZL1 and I believe the ZLE with the new Shelby GT500.

I agree that with the GT vs SS, Ford has been playing a lot of catch up, no argument there. But they finally did catch up, to a high bar set by Chevy for the mid-level performance car. And we're all better off for the competition, because I have a car that I love, and wouldn't have bought if Ford remained satisfied with the '15-17 S550 performance. But with regard to the halo models, it's been back and forth.
Let's go Gen by Gen. Cliff notes...

5th Gen:
-11 GT had to catch up to the 10 SS.
-13 GT500 was catching up to the 12 ZL1.
-15 GT350 was catching up to the 14 Z28. Which we all agree was a stupid and foolish errand on Ford's part.

6th Gen:
-18 GT had to catch up to the 16 SS.
-18 GT PP2 had to catch up to the 17 SLE. And even at that it wasn't available until after the 2nd half of 2018.
-2020 GT500 has to catch up to the 17 ZL1. Will it match the ZLE? Until it does the ZLE will remain the fastest.

Did I miss anything??
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