[DaveC113]

Originally Posted by lawguy85

...because we have facts. But for some reason facts don't matter anymore. Just call something fake, in spite of all the evidence, and people fall in line, lock step. And we have reason, but reason no longer matters either. Only the "feeling" that Toyota is lying (because BMW does?) matters. Not the concrete numbers I provided. Not the physics of torque being the metric with more correlation to acceleration. None of that actual evidence matters and it's maddening, not in I'm upset, I'm genuinely baffled at the complete disregard for empirical data and official quotes from Toyota. My brain genuinely hurts because it cannot comprehend the hand waving going on.



This makes the opposite point you think it makes. BMW underrated their 0-60 and only corrected it once Toyota released theirs. More simply put, this proves we should trust what Toyota is saying because BMW revised their numbers in the face of Toyota's, not vice versa. Ergo, we should absolutely believe Toyota that the Supra has 335hp and look more skeptically at BMWs, as BMW has proved to be conservative, not Toyota.

Oh my lord...

Ok, I responded without seeing this. You need meds dude, you are not well. IDK why you need to get so mad about something so unimportant. Logoff and go find your nearest mental health practitioner.