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Originally Posted by F1FTY
Not sure why you’re willing to make a hill to die on here.
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...because we have facts. But for some reason facts don't matter anymore. Just call something fake, in spite of all the evidence, and people fall in line, lock step. And we have reason, but reason no longer matters either. Only the "feeling" that Toyota is lying (because BMW does?) matters. Not the concrete numbers I provided. Not the physics of torque being the metric with more correlation to acceleration. None of that actual evidence matters and it's maddening, not in I'm upset, I'm genuinely baffled at the complete disregard for empirical data and official quotes from Toyota. My brain genuinely hurts because it cannot comprehend the hand waving going on.
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Originally Posted by soyboy
This is absolutely correct... Toyota has to provide numbers that will jive with BMW due to the shared DNA with the Z4. Case in point is this article:
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/14/...ted-0-60-time/
BMW underrated the Z4's 0-60 time, but had to revise it (initially stated 4.4, now 3.9 sec) yesterday after the Supra's numbers were revealed, because the Z4 has more HP than the Supra and it doesn't make sense that it would be slower. |
This makes the opposite point you think it makes. BMW underrated their 0-60 and only corrected it once Toyota released theirs. More simply put, this proves we should trust what Toyota is saying because BMW revised their numbers in the face of Toyota's, not vice versa. Ergo, we should absolutely believe Toyota that the Supra has 335hp and look more skeptically at BMWs, as BMW has proved to be conservative, not Toyota.