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Originally Posted by ramairroughneck
I don’t see how anyone could know one setup is better unless they use different blowers on their car with all the exact supporting parts which ain’t gonna happen. If someone runs a 2300r 416 stroker on ignite 114 race fuel, a crank pulley so big that you have to remove the swaybar, meth injection, and ported heads it’s clearly gonna be faster than another car with stock throttle body, cubes, heads, no meth or race fuel etc. The only way you could know one was better would be if you ran the same setup with a different type of blower and used the same supporting cast. Really once you get to 1000+ horsepower blowers so many other factors go into making a car perform. Your part of a small group if your pushing these blowers to their max potential. Maybe your the only one pushing that hard. I feel like if a ported 1.7 blower can make 750+ rwhp and run 9.4 @ 144 then clearly there’s enough potential in all the aftermarket blowers to make more steam than the drivetrain could ever handle. All the time I see the E-Force, Whipple, Procharger, and LT4 bashing by the Magnacharger guys but really is their any point in telling someone not to go that route when the average person could never afford to utilize the few ponies one system could make over another? Should a person pay a lot more for a Magnacharger when these other systems can squeeze out a 1000 horsepower for less and theoretically run cooler?
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I don't know why anyone would bash another setup. I would feel the same way about a Maggie setup. It is one thing to get a dyno number and another thing entirely to get the car tweaked for performance beyond a single gear with no shifting...for real performance. If I was only interested in a dyno number, we definitely could have made changes to get another 20-30whp...but that, to me, was pointless.
It's true in a perfect world we would take the same car and swap blowers. However, I was thinking more along the line of average blower applications. As an example, we see that stock cars tend to trap pretty consistently. The same is true, if I look at the Maggie or Procharged cars...let's say stock car running 7-8psi will trap in the 129-130range. Well, if we see another blower that consistently posts slower trap speeds with the same setup...its not as good for that application. The data will be clear when we have enough cars running any given application.
Would anyone argue that in the past, for a fully built application the F1 is the best? That doesn't make the F1 the best for every setup. In fact, of a stock car the P1 would be infinitely better empirically speaking (faster, more torque, etc).
I think the data can and does definitely support a "better" blower, but that has to be in context.
All of the blowers are approximately the same price with the exception of the LT4 blower which is clearly less expensive, so not sure what you are talking about there.