[camaro5]

Originally Posted by JT58

I bought a 2018- with the re-designed tranny and clutch. I would never buy a pre-2018. I even test drove a 2017 and did not like the tranny feel at all. The 2018 tranny and clutch has a way different feel to it. I am really, really picky on M/T- coming from Civic SI's and Miatias which have the best gear boxes in my opinion. I was not even thinking to buy a GT, not even on the radar until I test drove the 2018- which was just to rule it out. Not sure how it will hold up long term but I don't and won't drive it hard. I would have preferred a Camaro with a V6, manual (more than enough power for me) but the shifting and the box in the GT felt so good, I bought it. It's base any way, no track package, nothing, so no drag races or track use- still more than good enough cruiser for me, and it has a really sweet sounding V8.

If I was going to track I would get a Miata ND Club and add a ton of goodies or a Camaro SS 1LE- a no brainer.

Now they break their cast aluminum shift forks in 2018's.

Redesigned parts on back-order for months. Jump to 7:25 for the breakage




I've been lurking around lately, and truthfully I think all 3 muscle cars are excellent right now.

3 flavors:

Challenger - Old school, old chassis, cool vintage colors and models.
Roomier, visibility decent, usable back seat and trunk. Cool V8's. Seems reasonably reliable. Made in Canada. Great lease deals are what's selling these babies.
Heavy and large handling.

Mustang - I was a fan of the '67 Camaro when it came out, and have been a GM guy since just after birth.
I was a Mustang hater, but I have faced reality - it too is a great car - finally.
Good visibility, refresh added HP and better handling, roomier interior.
Quality good, but some piston slap V8's and broken shift forks are a reality.
Lease deals minimal.

Camaro - My true home car. The true sports car of the three.
Better than Corvette, for less money. Quality is good, but there are some recurring issues that GM can't or won't solve. Some basic QC missed at assembly on some units. Inconsistency.
Refresh is fine with me. Wish there were more features added, and more HP.
Leases are atrocious. Never really checked them until recently. Whoa. These lease prices are hurting sales numbers, but maybe GM's bank is full and they do not care.