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Originally Posted by rocket403
There are many people that are looking for a GM car that is RWD platform that can do more than the Camaro can provide, GM has nothing to offer, these people have left GM and will go to whatever manufacture will provide them. If GM was to offer a Chevelle or Monte right now it would outsell the small cramped Camaro unless it looked like the last GTO, it may take some people away from the Camaro but more would come from the Dodge twins. GM has been out of this market for these cars since 1988 and that is a market that still exists as Dodge has proven many people what a real muscle car not a cramped sports car.
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I'm sorry but in the price range of the Camaro that car you're talking about doesn't exist. At the price of a ZL1, there is nothing that can provide what it can provide. At $10K, $20K, and $30K more than the price of a ZL1 the only thing that can beat it is a Z06. It took drastic changes for the Mustang GT to compete with the SS. And the EB Mustang is no match for the cheaper Camaros. SO what exactly do you mean when you say that people are looking for a RWD car that do more than the Camaro can provide? None of the competition is even close.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
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Lets look at that 5th Gen comparison heck we will even toss the 6th Gen 1LE into the mix. First off both Gen 1LEs will spank the Boss on the track but that is it, street and strip the Boss will take care of the 5th Gen handily and will run with the 6th Gen 1LE. Review data not mine.
Road & Track
"The raucous Mustang installs itself in your subconscious with the viciousness of a drug addiction. Despite knowing there’s an objectively better alternative with a Chevy badge, we are lured back to the Boss again and again. Its responsive chassis, competent handling, and brawny engine strike us in a psychological weak spot where emotions overrule sensibilities. We’d never question someone for making the rational choice of a Camaro SS 1LE, but reason be damned, the Boss 302 is the car we want"
Now lets look at what the market thinks of these cars. KBB data, example 10,000 miles, high values.
2013 Boss - $33,402
2013 1LE - $25,120
2017 1LE - $35,103
Interesting data to say the least. 5th Gen values have tanked hard so for all it's track ability nobody seems to care. The 6th Gen may even be worse. The Boss is now nearly 6-yro yet has almost the same value as a 1-yro 1LE, both have similar MSRPs. So what car is truely special?
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That depends on the person buying the car. I'd take a 5th Gen ZL1 over a Boss 302 any day. The S197 Mustangs offer nothing that impresses me. Well with exception of the GT500. And even then it doesn't have options that I consider essential. So I would be hesitant to buy one of those too. As far as MT, they're just people with an opinion who like to say things as if the masses agree with them. Yet I've never seen them take a poll on any of their subjective statements. I could take their entire statement about the Boss, replace it with the Camaro, then talk about how everyone agrees with me, and that along with a buck would get you a candy bar.