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Old 07-08-2018, 08:28 AM   #1
Badgerbimmer
 
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Drives: ZL1 A10
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Wisconsin
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First Track Event Report

Just finished up two days at Road America with the ZL1 and thought I'd offer my thoughts on the car.

The first day didn't go to well.... At my 500 mile oil change I told the service adviser about the tranny overfill issue. He assured me based on my VIN number (feb 2017 build) it wasn't an issue in my car. In retrospect that was obviously complete BS. Anyway first session tranny fluid temp goes off the chart, backs out a coupling and starts leaking tranny fluid which hit everywhere including the exhaust, there was so much smoke it looked like the engine blew! Took it back to the dealer asked them politely to get it fixed, which they scrambled to do. Apparently there is a TSB out on the coupling issue. The dealership needed to go to 4 different dealers to find the new coupling and gather up enough tranny fluid to get the car fixed. They finished at 7 pm Friday night. Big thanks to the Father/Son technician team that worked that late on a Friday to enable me to track the car on Saturday. No over heating in 4 half-hour sessions on Saturday.

On to the cars performance. The ZL1 is stock but for Pagid RS19/29 pads, Castrol SRF fluid, Moreno Camber plates. Running -3 with zero toe front, -1.75 zero toe rear. As a reference I am coming from 15 years of tracking an E46 M3 which I purchased new and replaced the suspension (Koni Dbl adj), brakes, every piece of rubber in the car, pulled out a bunch of the interior etc. Dry weight was 3,180 engine was likely around 360hp. I ran on 275 Pirelli slicks. (when I did a session in my car at Road America, on the wets, with Randy Probst driving, yes that Randy Probst, he said wow this car is really dialed in as we went through the carousel drifting at a 45* angle!) Best lap that I could find on my traqmate at RA was 2.36.2.

Comparing these cars to each other on a track is like comparing a digital caliper to a tape measure. They both get the job done but in very different ways. The M3 is all about precision, the ZL1 brute force. I have to say the brute force is more fun! As configure the M3 is able to carry way more speed in every corner and brake way later into every corner. Obviously the ZL1 is way, way faster between the corners. By the second session in the car on clean laps (i.e. not having to get a wave by) I was able to get into the 2.34s. The ZL1 is a consist 2 seconds or so a lap faster than the M3. I assume as I gain more knowledge of the car I will be able to go a bit faster but.......

My thoughts on the ZL1. The obvious - the engine, the A10 tranny and the eLSD are fantastic. The tranny always seemed to be in the right gear. The engine pulls like a beast and coming out of corners it just hooks up and goes. The car is well balanced and fairly easy to drive with pace. The tire grip gives out way before the car starts pushing. I find the suspension to be more than adequate and the brakes are great. (although it takes a long time to bring a 3850 lbs car down from 150mph). Its also really fun to pass Corvettes, 911 GT3s etc on the straights!!

The but.... The big limiting factor in the car is the tires. Everything on this car is better than the stock tires. The brakes overwhelm the tires, the suspension overwhelms the tires, the engine power overwhelms the tires. In the 4th session of the day and trying to push the lap times I was in 4 wheel drifts in virtually every corner (my buddy in his GT350 with Pirelli's was following and said it was a hoot to watch). Also when trying to brake later and really get on them hard the tires start locking up. Now I don't know if the tires where just starting to lose their grip after that much track time or I was just hitting their limit. Put a set of Pirelli's on the car and its an easy 5/6 seconds a lap faster at Road America. This would put the stock car in the 2.28/29 range which is moving along pretty good.

In summary, for a car you can drive to the track on stock DOT tires not touch and run on the track it is fantastic! It is s**t eating grin fun to drive and altogether worth every dime it costs. Change out the brake fluid and pads, add some camber put on some real race tires and you have yourself a really fast car. I love this car!!!
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