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Originally Posted by newmoon
We have had this argument many times. There is a 11:00s on the table for the Hellcat by Cars.com review, and a 10:90s on the table from MotorWeek. For the ZL1 the best I have seen is MotorTrend's 11:40s?
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No we haven't. I have not seen any testing of the Hellcat on it's stock tires do better than an 11.7 while the best the ZL1 has done is an 11.4.
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Originally Posted by Finkleson
High Horsepower will always catch peoples attention. Ford better step up the gt500 after RedEye was just introduce. Dodge wins straight line, while GM takes tracks and corners? What shall Ford try to take over?
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Highest priced with least options...
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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife
Why does everyone keep throwing around $100,000 for a GT500?
I'd love to know what imaginary combination of components you're crafting to hit that amount.
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That is not a MSRP guess. They're saying you won't be able to get one for less than $100K after markups are thrown in. I think that is a bit of a stretch. I think the MSRP will be in the $70K range and there will be $5K-$10K in markups.
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Originally Posted by hotlap
This (below) is difficult to fixed and adding 90 HP didn't help. The ZL1 is a completely engineered car.
FYI - I'm on record as not being a fan of the LT4 and it 1.7L blower. Chevy seriously needs to stop the tiny blow crap.
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That is a huge exaggeration. People are DDing Hellcats from stock power to over 1000 RWHP and they're doing just fine. I could boost mine to 750ish to the wheels and it would be fine. The handling is NOT that bad. I throw it in track mode and although it is a far cry from how my ZL1 handles it still does pretty well for it's weight and size.
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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife
The biggest problem the Hellcat has is a lack of traction..275 wide rubber is woefully inadequate even for a 485 HP car, much less one with 200+ more HP and buckets more torque.
Blaq and I had this discussion earlier..most of the Hellcats ills would be solved with wider/lighter wheels with more rubber. Going to a sticky 305 square set up would make massive improvements, but that's on a consumer level.
I may be behind the times..I fully admit that, but I think $2,500-$3,000 in new wheels/rubber is cheaper than replacing the blower on a ZL1.
And I fully agree with the small blower crap being a problem..it seems to me that a larger blower turning slower with less heat would be better than a small blower spinning to the moon generating lots of heat...
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The problem is that the ZL1 needs to have the engine opened up to get power that the Hellcat can get with just a blower. I priced out modding my ZL1 and it is expensive. Like, $15K (minimum) to over $20K for what I can get out of the Hellcat for just $3500.