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Originally Posted by Bhobbs
Not sure what you mean. The Hellcat was out first. The ZL1 may have matched the Hellcat, but it won't now, especially the Redeye version.
This is just the Hellcat taking the top spot back. The issue is Camaro won't have another competitor for a few years. The 6th gen is done at this point and will coast into the 7th based on whats already been released. Then we have at least one year of the 7th gen with the base models.
By that time, Dodge will already have the 426 Challengers out and who knows what to replace the Hellcat.
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What I mean is that when the ZL1 arrived, it took the top spot as it had the best quarter mile time stock for stock and it got around a track faster than anything Dodge or Ford had in the same price range. The GT350R nor the Hellcat could beat the ZL1 in a straight line or around a track and the ZL1 was the cheapest (MSRP) and the only one of them that never had markups.
So now the ZL1 has been on top since 2017 MY, it will take this new Redeye from Dodge to beat it in a quarter mile and that is if FCA throws a decent tire on it and if it can put that power to the ground effectively. It won't beat the ZL1 around a track tho.
Ford needs the GT500 with a massive new power plant and the A10 trans to overpower the ZL1 in a straight line. And it is debatable whether or not the GT500 will be able to beat the ZL1 1LE around a track. And then you have to factor in how much the GT500 will cost and if it can be had without markups. Because at the price it comes in at it might not even be in ZL1 territory. And it might not even be available until 2020.
So that is what I mean. It basically will have taken Dodge 2 MYs to beat the ZL1 in a straight line provided it meets the aforementioned criteria. And it will have taken Ford 3 MYs to beat them and even then the ZL1 won't be the worst at everything. So it basically is taking a lot of time and everything to be throw at the ZL1 and even then it still will be a very capable car and will still be much cheaper than these other two.