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Old 05-24-2018, 11:59 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by ShizzySupra View Post
Why would any person do power adders then get frustrated about traction if they were using non sticky tires? No offense Oldman but you seem to be very argumentative on the forums.

Come take a ride with me I will show you how you can put the power down and make 800lb/ft "usable" on the street.
Funny you just made my point. The centri has a more usable torque curve, so there is less "frustration" on street tires. I don't know why saying 600+ ft lbs can't be hooked on summer tires makes me "argumentative". The guy wants opinions I have his EXACT setup, so I offer my opinion. Now if this was a full prep drag race package with an automatic, I would have less to know opinion (pun intended), as there are many guys (like you) here with far more experience.

If you are defining sticky tires as 00 drag radials preheated and a prepped track, the question is why indeed would you opt for a PD in any other condition? Check the thread topic. Jumping ship, why? Well unless you are talking 00 drag radials or slicks + prep track the is absolutely no reason to jump ship (maybe road course). Under either condition (drag strip or road race) it is a $$ contest, not a PD vs centri contest.

99.99% of the people are on at best plain summer tires. I'm not "frustrated" with traction. I'm merely pointing out that 600+ ft lbs is not hookable on the street with street tires. So the point that the PD makes that and early on is completely moot for the vast majority of Camaro drivers.


I would be afraid of anybody that thinks 800 ft lbs is "usable" on the street. I think I will opt out of the ride, thanks.


To the original poster. I was in the same boat as you, I have an M6 too, I like the linear instant torque, price and factory look of the ADM setup. I think 1st gear can use some help. That said I went with the centri for many reasons including tuner support for Pray as well as I was installing it myself. On sticky summer tires the base boost centri, headers, ported heads and blower cam, is IMO all that can be hooked and the car is a handful. I would look to a

1) new head unit with a smaller than the default 4.1 pulley, fuel (low side and high side), tune of course.
1a) 305 summer tires in the rear
2) if you need more power, I would then do headers and then ported heads.
3) Last I would do a blower cam with fuel lobe.

At stage 3, this should exceed any ability to ever hook on summer tires at an legal speed.

Advantages of the above, is the stage 1 is really easy DIY, headers are not too bad either. I would put the ADM set up there on install difficulty with ported heads, so this is probably be a shop setup for most people. I would probably ask myself what tuner support I have, as it will be the tuner that makes either go. I've heard only good things about ADM and their setup. I've have great support from Pray on his package.
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Last edited by oldman; 05-24-2018 at 12:37 PM.
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