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Old 03-17-2018, 08:00 AM   #870
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
But the 16 SS is still clearly the better performance car according to MotorTrends measurements. No matter if the 18 GT has more horesepower, the Camaro is still the faster car, they are just horrible with marketing. Just look how many people saw the "under 4,0s seconds to 60mph"-campaign from the 18 Mustang, Chevy has no interest in selling people that their car is fast

2016 SS MT (from vs M4)
0 - 60: 4.1s
Quarter Mile: 12.4s
Figure Eight: 24.1s
Track: 1: 23: 15

2015 GT PP1 MT (from vs 14 1LE)
0 - 60: 4.6s
Quarter Mile: 12.9s
Figure Eight: 24.4s
Track: 1: 24: 32

2018 GT PP1 MT (from vs 16 1LE)
0 - 60: 4.4s
Quarter Mile: 12.6s
Figure Eight: 24.0s
Track: 1: 23: 97
Same with the ZL1 vs Hellcat comparison. The ZL1 is clearly the better performance car. Chevy’s focus is doing everything well. Not a HP number.

I think within the enthusiast circles, people know, and we see the Camaro’s abilities acknowledged by the other camps, both here and on their forums. Some just hate it...just because

Advertising won’t help IMO. Higher ATP and retail sale show Chevy is getting the enthusiast sale in the V8 models. I’d prefer GM focus on getting Cadillacs share of Alpha production up rather than diluting the Camaro with low end trims and rental cars

ZL1 A10
¼ mile: 11.5 sec @ 125.0 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 96 ft
Figure eight: 23.1 sec @0.91 g (avg)
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/camaro/2017/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-first-test-brute-squad-goals/

ZL1 M6
¼ mile: 11.8 sec @ 123.9 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 97 ft
Figure eight: 23.2 sec @0.89 g (avg)
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/...gt350r-review/

Hellcat A8
¼ mile: 11.7 sec @ 125.4 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 109 ft
Figure eight: 24.7 sec @0.85 g (avg)

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge/challenger/2015/2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-first-test/

2013 GT500
¼ mile: 11.6 sec @ 125.7 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 101 ft
Figure eight: 24.2 sec @0.80 g (avg)
Cost: $64,770 (2013) plus ADM

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/shelby-gt500/2013/2013-ford-shelby-gt500-first-test/

HellcatM6
Standing ¼ mile: 11.9 sec @ 124 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 154 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.91 g

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-manual-test-review
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