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Originally Posted by tyler731

so will you argue that the car sent to Evan Smith was a ringer since no other magazine has come close to his time?

I wouldn't say it's a ringer. They clearly went to the track with the goal of best ET possible period. That was the goal, and in the article they mentioned they were going to use every advantage possible. Air up the fronts, drop the rears and short staging. I will find it on here, it was posted somewhere on here that short staging can be worth 2-3 tenths(that can be debated but short staging will shave ET) If we accept that 2-3 tenth range that puts his "hero runs" at 12.0 and 12.1 which would be right there with some of the fastest A10 runs we have seen. Not close to any mag times though so if you want to call it a ringer go ahead

Originally Posted by vtirocz

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/...nd-trucks.html

A Few Words About Rollout
The term "rollout" might not be familiar, but it comes from the drag strip. The arrangement of the timing beams for drag racing can be confusing, primarily because the 7-inch separation between the "pre-stage" and "stage" beams is not the source of rollout. The pre-stage beam, which has no effect on timing, is only there to help drivers creep up to the starting position. Rollout comes from the 1-foot separation (11.5 inches, actually) between the point where the leading edge of a front tire "rolls in" to the final staging beam — triggering the countdown to the green light that starts the race — and the point where the trailing edge of that tire "rolls out" of that same beam, the triggering event that starts the clock. A driver skilled at "shallow staging" can therefore get almost a free foot of untimed acceleration before the clock officially starts, effectively achieving a rolling-start velocity of 3-5 mph and shaving the 0.3 second it typically takes to cover that distance off his elapsed time (ET) in the process.

We believe the use of rollout for quarter-mile timed runs is appropriate, as this test is designed to represent an optimum drag strip run that a car owner can replicate at a drag strip. In the spirit of consistency, we also follow NHRA practice when calculating quarter-mile trap speed at the end of the run. So we publish the average speed over the final 66 feet of the quarter-mile run, even though our VBOX can tell us the instantaneous speed at the end of the 1,320-foot course, which is usually faster.

There is where I saw that a shallow stage can knock as much as 3/10s off. Take it for what it's worth.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Good point but I think it is just as mentioned before, that they tested the Mustang in comparison to the SS 1LE and it felt that bad. If they had tested it according to it's own attributes or as compared to the 15-17 then perhaps they wouldn't have noticed it's flaws. But after coming out of the SS 1LE the flaws were blatantly evident.

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And as others have stated, that might be the best/most logical reason I guess

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

there could be a hundred reasons... atmospheric conditions, track conditions, some cars are just stronger runners. Steeda went 12.24@117 on 235 A/S tires and 1400' d/a

Originally Posted by End User

Show me a review that has gone to the lengths that M/T has.

Hopefully Car and Drive includes a 2018 GT equipped with PP1 in Lightning Lap 2018.

Lightning Lap Times:

2017 SS 1LE 2:54.8
2015 GT 3:05.2

hopefully, but I have a feeling by the time they do the LL they will have access to a PP2 car.