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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole
Yet the Mustang's performance is girly.
You tell me what the PP2 is. The 1LE has been around all this time. So you're saying that up until 2018 the Mustang never had a package to match the 1LE?
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I’m saying the only comparison we had was the 1LE and GTPP, just like right now…the only upper level comparison is between the GT350R and the ZL11LE. The comparison between the GT350R and ZL1 was valid, but they weren’t true competition….it’s all they had to compare at the time. The ZL11LE and GT350R aren’t really competitors.
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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole
And what is absurd is that you're bringing up 4th gen models. If your argument is correct then the SS shouldn't even be compared to the GT at all. I'm talking about the Mustang and the Camaro and the trim levels they have out right now. GT to the SS and GT PP to the SS 1LE. Again, just because the GT PP did horribly and Ford had to come up with the PP2 doesn't mean you can just go around saying the PP1 isn't the natural competitor. The PP2 was made because the PP1 fell short by a landslide and that is it's only reason for existence. If the PP1 had been closer in performance to the 1LE then do you really think they would have come up with the PP2?
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Let’s look the trim options. The base GT has a softer, more compliant suspension and all season tires. The SS comes with firmer, more track worth suspension and summer only tires. GM admits that they plan on making a stripped down SS to match up to the base GT...which you completely ignore. Did you even read the article?
And I rephrase the question….if the PP1 is the natural competitor as you state to the 1LE, where does that put the PP2?
So you honestly think that Ford engineered the PP1 already knowing the performance of the 1LE and failed. Then at the last second, engineered an entirely new suspension setup with different spring rates, advancetrack tune, different wheels, different tires, new suspension components etc. You are truly oblivious to the design cycle and lead times associated with designing and manufacturing parts….especially castings. It’s obvious that Ford had a game plan for the PP1 that would sell…and there were others within Ford who were not satisfied that it would not step up to the plate.