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Originally Posted by ST1LE
Agreed. The only reason we are comparing them, is because Ford has given us no choice.....yet.
Everyone knows the closest comparison to the 1LE is and has been the GT350, but Ford has only allowed the 1LE to compete with the PP1 so far. Ford has its reasons, but I think in the end the reason it is because the 1LE is too competitive considering the price gap, a comparison like that would look TERRIBLE for Ford.
Very excited to see the results of the H2H with the PP2, I just cannot figure out why GM and Ford are on such different pages. It has taken forever for the PP2 to come out, GM released the 1LE is the 2nd MY.
PP2 on the surface seems like the true rival or apples to apples to the 1LE, but I think the GT350 will prove to be more consistent competition. The 1LE comes fully equipped to handle track days, but the PP2 not so much sans coolers. Of course it is yet to be seen if limp mode is an issue, but we would be silly to think it wont be considering the 15-16 GT350 Tech Pack debacle.
I just don't get it. It has 305 Sport Cup 2's FFS......not exactly a daily driver's dream, so why no damn coolers for track duty? Is Ford that cheap? Is the margin that small? I cannot think of a reason tbh.
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That's because Ford management didn't care about competing with the 1LE. They produced the PP1 knowing it wasn't going to match up. Hell, it took a prideful effort by engineers to create the PP2 in hopes of competing with the 1LE.
As for limp mode issues, keep in mind the PP2 has a different transmission than the GT350. It is quite possible that the Getrag transmission may not have the same cooling issues as the Tremec.
I don't disagree, coolers should have been standard...but if I were a betting man, this is entirely a bean counter issue. They were likely given a budget they weren't able to exceed.