View Single Post
Old 01-27-2018, 04:12 PM   #15
JamesNoBrakes


 
JamesNoBrakes's Avatar
 
Drives: 2SS 1LE
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: AK
Posts: 2,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by F1FTY View Post
Sat in a new M4 at the dealership while my wife's car was in for service.

Can honestly say the following for the M4 with a price point of $86,000:

-Seats are much nicer than the SS/1LE seats in terms of materials and looks. Recaros grip better.
Supposedly the sport seats in the lower 430/440 are the shiz compared to the "standard" ones on those cars, yet I found them to be just "passable". Weren't as nice as my old 2SS. The high end seats in the M4 are probably better, but the heated/cooled recaros in my 2SS are pretty nice, no complaints.

Quote:
-Door panels are definitely a big step up in materials and layout.
I find them to be about the same as far as doors. Camaro doors are bigger and that "magnifies" the plastic real-estate?

Quote:

-Dash is complicated with buttons for everything, along with the center tunnel/console area.

-Steering wheel isn't any nicer than the Camaro.
Same with the 2SS, that entire row above the vents is all buttons, more than necessary. The BMW I-drive system is flat out better though, to be able to use all the functions of the computer without ever having to reach forward and touch a screen is a plus. Like the ergonomics of the m-sport steering wheel a bit better (button placement/function), but then again mine wasn't heated and my new 2SS is. No contest, heated steering wheel is heavenly. All in all very comparable for being a good wheel, the steerING on the other hand, BMW is poor.

Quote:
-Visibility is better at the C pillar, but that's every car vs. the Camaro.
Except the rear visibility is about the same, same height rear window. Sills are a little high on the 4-series, nowhere near as high as the camaro.

Quote:
-Trunk opening is wider and lower but the height is more restrictive if that makes sense. Not a deep trunk.
Hands down more functional on the BMW.

Quote:

-Car feels larger overall (I'd have to look up the dimensions, it should be the same as the Camaro).
I noticed the Camaro has shrunk inside with the current gen, obviously even more useless rear seats magnify this, but it's not as wide side to side either, so it is a little more cozy.

Quote:
-Materials and fit and finish were a little bit nicer overall, but it didn't make the Camaro feel downmarket at all compared to my 2SS. It didn't have some features the Camaro has (heated steering, HUD, larger infotainment screen, same amount of USB ports in same hard to reach area).
I don't see this to be much different, a little better dash is possible with the BMW, still when you really look around there's a LOT of plastic in an M4, more than I think people may notice, but it's there.

Quote:

BMW just feels like a dying brand these days when it comes to performance cars. The M4 almost felt forced, like they did it because they had to rather than because they wanted to.
Think about the M4 GTS and all the compromises it has to make and it's still not faster. That says a lot to me.
__________________
Everything happens for a reason, except when it doesn't, but even then, you can, in hindsight, fabricate a reason that satisfies your belief system.

2018 2SS 1LE
2023 Colorado ZR2
2022 Stinger GT-line AWD

Last edited by JamesNoBrakes; 01-27-2018 at 09:50 PM.
JamesNoBrakes is offline   Reply With Quote