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Old 01-20-2018, 02:21 PM   #755
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Originally Posted by SSfriendly View Post
This is where you're completely wrong. Ford knew what the 1LE ran. They chose to not compete with it on the PP1. They didn't fail, they are targeting a different audience. In other-words, they didn't care about beating the 1LE. That obviously pissed off some engineers, hence the reason they went ahead with the PP2.

As for tires overall, Ford is playing the game differently. Tires are expensive, and Ford knows a majority don't care about having expensive summer tires on their base GT package. Sure, it sucks for those that want a wider/better tire...but for those that truly care there is always the PP1.

These aren't failures, these are marketing decisions. As it stands, Ford offers (in V8 form) the GT, PP1, PP2, GT350, GT350R. They will soon offer the Bullitt as well as the GT500. That's a hell of a lineup if you ask me.
This is where you are lying. Ford was not targeting a different audience. They were trying to beat the SS and the SS 1LE. They failed. And now they have the PP2 coming out because they are trying again. This isn't a marketing game. It is a performance war. Ford is trying to compete and they are losing. Horribly. Your constant ridiculous excuses just show how bad the performance is.

Ford just upped the price, upped the HP and tq, and sent GTs to every popular well known tuner/racer/shop they could find. These guys bought the GT and immediately took them to the track and used every track related app/mode it came with to bust off the best time they could get. They then threw DRs, tunes, track packs, blowers, nitrous, etc on these cars and spent weeks bragging on social media and advertising on their websites and snapping driveshafts all in efforts to chip away at the numbers and showcase the performance of this car. And you sat here making bold claims about the GT and GT PP1 all based on performance. The GT got it's ass whooped despite all the fanfare and hoopla and claims of 11 sec quarter mile times and now all of a sudden you reply back with marketing bullshit? And the best excuse you have is that now all of a sudden Ford was targeting a different audience? The only audience they were targeting was the performance world. If they didn't care about the performance then they would have saved the money from the performance upgrades, left it as a high 12 sed to low 13 sec car, spent a little bread on the cosmetics, and called it a day. But they didn't because they are trying to keep up with the Camaro.
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