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Old 01-10-2018, 12:03 AM   #349
Nabush
 
Drives: 2017 C7 GS M7 / 2017 Camaro SS 1LE
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Idaho
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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole View Post
Well the GT350(R) is a one-trick pony as well. All it can do is corner. And even that isn't enough for the R to beat the ZL1.

My statement isn't going too far. GM has the likes of the GS Vette, Z06, and ZL1 which are all in the GT350R's price range yet offer more options and beat the R everywhere. Dodge has/had the Viper which is/was in the same league although slightly more expensive (before markups)...but with markups it is/was in the same range. And the Viper destroys the R. Taking a step back and looking at the HC it destroys the R in a straight line by a lot although the R will beat the HC on a track by a lot. Again, they're both one-trick ponys. But HCs come standard with way more options than the R.

So for what it's worth, both GM and FCA have been kicking ass for a long time with the pushrod design. Even now the GT is still behind. All the excuses in the world doesn't take away from the fact that Ford is making the least impressive Muscle Cars right now. So I sure am not seeing how these DOHC engines are the cat's meow when they keep getting their asses kicked.
The thing is the Mustang is an in between the Camaro and the Challenger.

It performs as well as the Camaro/challenger in straight line (for the 2018 model), is slower on a roadcourse than the Camaro but faster than the challenger, but sufficiently fast and composed to give fun on a mountain road at a fast pace.

It’s more liveable as a daily than the camaro (don’t know for the challenger)

That’s why Mustang sells well, performance is good, accessible and sufficient for most people.

By the way How many of you go to the limit of your cars ?

For you living in NJ which roads do you have to touch/approach the limits of your ZL1 ?

I live myself of the bottom of the 15miles/6000 ft elevation Hillclimb where i can do it (And i track on roadcourses, was living near Le Mans and other famous French roadcourses where i raced, now i need to go farther ...) but i’m very lucky to have such roads....not the case for most of you eastern guys...on straight roads telling the difference is not very relevant no ?
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