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Originally Posted by germanicus

Baloney, you don't get to pivot here. The hyerbole in your reply to Poppacap above is ridiculous. You weren't discussing magazine numbers. You were extrapolating a fundamentally flawed reasoning why a modded A10 could not run with a stock zl1. You are being evasive, ignoring blatantly apparent real world results, essentially doing more backflips than an olympic gymnast. Did you forget after 2 posts?

Stop trying to use big words. You're just making yourself sound ridiculous.

Originally Posted by germanicus

I think you realize how silly your statement is, as at the end of your paragraph you state "It is not going to beat a stock ZL1 unless it is FBO including a tire and/or boost/nitrous." The key is that "and/or" boost/nitrous. You realize the 11.31 was an e85 tune and tire. No boost/nitrous.

Is that 11.31 faster than my best time? Sure it is. My best time is an 11.8. But there is much more to my run than just looking at the end result. And there is much more to the other runs. Now if anyone has the balls to look at me 11.8 and then look at the 11.3 of the 18 GT that you're fapping to, and think that they can beat me if they did those same mods, then I would welcome that person to come to my track and give it a shot. You're using this information in an attempt to either downplay the ZL1, boost up the GT, or mislead people into thinking that the GT with those mods is faster than a stock ZL1. SS Friendly tried that same argument. But the thing is that your argument is extremely cherry picked. And you're ignoring all the data from the runs you're talking about. Because when all the data is used it would prove you completely wrong and you know that for a fact. Again, if you ever have the balls to challenge me on this then by all means come out to my track and we can put this to rest. Now if you did full bolt-ons with boost, then it would be an interesting match. But with just those mods you're talking about you would not stand a chance.

Originally Posted by germanicus

You clearly stated "No it won't" to the notion that a modded A10 could "run with a stock zl1".

It won't. Unless you're talking about a M6 ZL1 with an average driver that bogs and if the GT has a pro driver. Against an A10 ZL1 it will not win at all.

Originally Posted by germanicus

Unless EVERY STOCK ZL1 runs faster than 11.31 in the same conditions, by the most basic comprehension, your supposition is flawed. Will every 18 GT A10 with mods do this? OF COURSE NOT. NO ONE CLAIMED THAT. Claiming that is silly and ludicrous, but your position is just as ludicrous as it has been clearly demonstrated that at least one GT with an e85 tune and tires has beaten ALL BUT 2 of your stock zl1 fast list times. Do you agree that 11.31 is faster than ALL BUT 2 of your stock zl1 fast list times? It's rather easy to verify. Yes or no. Its a few clicks away! Don't be afraid! Your car wont magically disappear if you look, I promise. Don't dodge this! If you want to claim "oh thats a magical hero run" or made up/fabricated fine, you can still sleep at night. But Yes or No, is 11.31 faster than all but 2 of the listed times ? If it is, than certainly a rational individual would agree that "A modded A10 could run with a stock zl1".

Again, taking the info that suits your argument because you know full well that if you take all the data into consideration you would be proven wrong. You can hang on to your 11.3 all you want. You can say that it is faster than my 11.8. Go right ahead. But would you be foolish enough to actually think you could beat me on a track?

Originally Posted by germanicus

Everyone knows that races are only run by comparing magazine numbers!

No rational mustang guys are claiming the stock 18gt auto is as fast as a stock zl1. How pathetic would that be - its down 190hp?

But how many mustang guys who goto tracks run their cars stock?
Do you with your zl1? Stock? Modded? Would your (modded) posted time be considered faster or slower than say.... lets randomly pick a number here.... 11.31?

ahhhhh, the hyperbole becomes a bit more clear now.

Again with the 11.31. So let me explain it to you again since that is the number you wanna cling to. If I did a max effort run in my A10 ZL1, then I absolutely believe I will do better than an 11.31. And I could do it up here in NJ in the Summer as opposed to doing it in the Winter.

So you comparing my 11.8 and all of our numbers done months ago when you don't even know how we drove our cars or if we were even trying to accomplish to someone who took an 18 GT with the sole effort to max it out and get the absolute best time and ran it to it's full potential is cherry picked as hell. But that is what you Mustang guys LOVE to do. I wasn't even trying when I went. I was there hanging out. The first night I went I didn't even pay to race. I paid to spectate and then had to walk all the way around to the front to pay the extra fee to race after my friends talked me into it. And I was not going to beat on my car. I did a 12.1 on my second run without even putting effort into it. My 11.8 came in like fashion. So if you think you can match me if I put effort into my runs then I would love to see you try.