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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
There seems to be alot of arguing and emphasis over what these cars do stock. Honestly.... Who cares?
Bottom line is this:
Take both cars.. 6gen, and GT. What can you do to each to make it the fastest? Ok, so do it.
And the verdict:
Mustang wins. It has been winning since the introduction of the 6gen and still is. Throw some twins on the 5.0 with fueling and converter, and it will outperform the LT1 with whatever setup you want to put on it...period. Want proof? No 6gen has gone faster than the S550s yet all out.
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Completely incorrect. If you're talking all out max effort cars with unlimited potential and unlimited money thrown at them then it can go either way. Which is why we avoid bringing mods into the discussion. Because it blurs the debate. And it comes down to the driver at that point. Every little mistake will make a huge difference.
If you're talking about FBO including boost but remaining streetable then it still goes either way. I've seen GTs with FBO and boost do mid 11s. And I've seen 6th Gen SS with nothing but boost hit low 11s even into the high 10s. What does that tell you? And I've seen it the other way around too. There are many many factors involved including who can trim more weight, the tires used, how the combo is set up (efficient setups will always have an advantage over inefficient ones), etc. It isn't a "Mustang will definitely win" issue at all. Not even close. Plus there are way to many different modifications to even justify that statement. FBO and full weight. FBO tubbed. Etc. How do you know the GTs you saw weren't gutted to extreme measures? How would I know. These types of races are reserved for different categories where there are rules regarding what can and can't be done or what the minimum weight requirement is. But all of that is getting into a whole nother ballgame.
All things being equal, the one car I would say is superior in the quarter mile mod for mod is the Hellcat. No other car I know of exists that with nothing but bolt-ons (including E85 and/or meth) can safely and reliably get into the 900s on the stock blower, stock heads, stock cam, and with the stock engine internals. Do a pulley, E85, tune, tire, and driveshaft and you'll be close to 800 to the wheels all day safely. Port the blower, add LTs, and you'll see 900s. With just a pulley swap and tune they'll make approx 750 to the wheels. And the Demon will be even more intense. But even that is a discussion for a different day.
We debate this stuff because that is what we do. What I don't understand is why people who don't understand why we debate show up to these threads trying to rationalize. If you don't understand it or don't like it, then let those of us that do understand it comment. I don't care about vinyl wrapping, cosmetic shit, which wax is the best, which wheel looks better, how far it can be lowered, or any of that other stuff. Do I go on those sub-forums trying to tell people that vinyl wrapping doesn't matter? Or saying "who cares" when someone wants to know which wheel looks better? No, I don't. I stay out of it. So if it doesn't interest you, then ok fine. But you don't have to tune in or jump in either. Simple as that. Let those of us who are interested in these debates do what we do.