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ggaites 07-31-2021 09:50 PM

Zero to sixty MANUAL ONLY 0-60 ZL1
 
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Normal street trim, cold pressure set to @35 everywhere, tires at temp @41, half tank of gas, level ground, and pulled off several 3.9’s. What can I hope for?

https://www.gitezimaging.com/2021-ZL...nce-/i-pQKXDx9

Z OH 6 07-31-2021 10:11 PM

Tire pressure way too high, try 30-32 cold psi.

TRZ06 07-31-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ggaites (Post 11048489)
Searched and didn’t find anything useful…

Normal street trim, cold pressure set to @35 everywhere, tires at temp @41, half tank of gas, level ground, and pulled off several 3.9’s. What can I hope for?

https://www.gitezimaging.com/2021-ZL...nce-/i-pQKXDx9

That is poor for 650HP. Hard to get traction in a RWD.

I am so glad I am moving to a mid-engine platform.

PDK GT4 w/ launch control 3.6 and over 200hp less.

SFV1LE 07-31-2021 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TRZ06 (Post 11048496)
That is poor for 650HP. Hard to get traction in a RWD.

I am so glad I am moving to a mid-engine platform.

PDK GT4 w/ launch control 3.6 and over 200hp less.

Several reputable magazines have tested the ZL1 1LE manual at 0-60 in 3.4 and 3.5 seconds.

It's true that the PDK GT4 may be consistently quicker 0-60 by a 1-2 tenths vs a manual ZL1, and the 2018 ZL1 1LE is 12 seconds faster than the latest GT4 factory lap on the Nurburgring (7:28). Depends on what is more important to you, I prefer overall track performance but I do like the GT4.

Z OH 6 08-01-2021 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRZ06 (Post 11048496)
That is poor for 650HP. Hard to get traction in a RWD.

I am so glad I am moving to a mid-engine platform.

PDK GT4 w/ launch control 3.6 and over 200hp less.

What a silly comment. What is the price of the GT4? For less than $700 in drag radials, the OP could very likely match a 3.6 0-60. Clearly its a traction issue due to having more power than the GT4. Traction can be resolved with a sticker set of tires which costs a LOT less than buying a GT4. I'd rather have more power otherwise we would all be driving a Miata.

KingLT1 08-01-2021 09:25 AM

Magazines often include 1ft rollout which reduces the time about 2-3 tenths. Also they normally test on a prepped surface...the street is a different ball game especially with a manual. 3.9 isn't bad for a manual car, with street tires on the street.

Scottyz 08-01-2021 09:47 AM

The best I have done is 4.0 seconds on my Michelin’s. I think I could do better on my 3rs. This was last year.
A few days ago I tried to do some 0-60 runs. I would launch and the timer would abort the run. For some reason my dash kept reading “car must be stopped” even though I was. Like I was at a dead stop. Not sure if I’m doing something wrong here that i did differently last year????

Z OH 6 08-01-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1 (Post 11048624)
Magazines often include 1ft rollout which reduces the time about 2-3 tenths. Also they normally test on a prepped surface...the street is a different ball game especially with a manual. 3.9 isn't bad for a manual car, with street tires on the street.

Totally agree here, sub 4 second 0-60 in a manual trans is VERY quick.

Vigilante375 08-01-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TRZ06 (Post 11048496)
That is poor for 650HP. Hard to get traction in a RWD.

I am so glad I am moving to a mid-engine platform.

PDK GT4 w/ launch control 3.6 and over 200hp less.

Go try to get a 3.6 0 to 60 with a manual GT4 and report back.

I wonder how much over MSRP you paid for that car too....

semif18 08-01-2021 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRZ06 (Post 11048496)
That is poor for 650HP. Hard to get traction in a RWD.

I am so glad I am moving to a mid-engine platform.

PDK GT4 w/ launch control 3.6 and over 200hp less.

Congrats on the GT4. I owned the previous gen car and it was fantastic. I know the 718s are better so you will love it. However, if you bought it because you think it's somehow "better and faster" than a ZL1.......sorry to say you spent a lot of $ on a slower car.

TRZ06 08-01-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SFV1LE (Post 11048522)
Several reputable magazines have tested the ZL1 1LE manual at 0-60 in 3.4 and 3.5 seconds.

It's true that the PDK GT4 may be consistently quicker 0-60 by a 1-2 tenths vs a manual ZL1, and the 2018 ZL1 1LE is 12 seconds faster than the latest GT4 factory lap on the Nurburgring (7:28). Depends on what is more important to you, I prefer overall track performance but I do like the GT4.

Oh, no doubt. It should be faster on the track than a GT4. It has a lot more HP and the Alpha chassis is amazing.

I almost got the ZLE, but I just didn't want too daily drive the DSSV's and SC3 R tires (the SC3 tires weren't avail. in ZLE sizes at that time)

So my move to the GT4 is from the SS 1LE.

TRZ06 08-01-2021 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z OH 6 (Post 11048583)
What a silly comment. What is the price of the GT4? For less than $700 in drag radials, the OP could very likely match a 3.6 0-60. Clearly its a traction issue due to having more power than the GT4. Traction can be resolved with a sticker set of tires which costs a LOT less than buying a GT4. I'd rather have more power otherwise we would all be driving a Miata.

It was a tongue in cheek comment.

I am excited to see that the advantages of a mid-engine platform gives you for rear traction.

No offense meant

TRZ06 08-01-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375 (Post 11048647)
Go try to get a 3.6 0 to 60 with a manual GT4 and report back.

I wonder how much over MSRP you paid for that car too....

I have no desire for a manual GT4, a big part of choosing the PDK was the improved 0-60 and I love me a good dual clutch over a manual.

I am getting mine at MSRP, I negotiated my deal and put a deposit down before all this craziness started, luckily. The GT4 purchase has been 9 mths in the making so far. delivery is in Nov.

TRZ06 08-01-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semif18 (Post 11048678)
Congrats on the GT4. I owned the previous gen car and it was fantastic. I know the 718s are better so you will love it. However, if you bought it because you think it's somehow "better and faster" than a ZL1.......sorry to say you spent a lot of $ on a slower car.

Thanks man.

It will be my first P car and first mid-engine car.

I am coming from an SS 1LE to the GT4, not from the ZLE. Most track times for the SS 1LE and manual GT4 are very close, with the GT4 slightly ahead. With the PDK version, it will be a bit quicker both straight line and in the corners. I knew going in that I was not going to gain much over the SS 1LE, but my motivation wasn't added performance. The SS 1LE is amazing and I am happy with its performance ( I do not track).

I just want the SS 1LE performance in a more upscale, lighter, smaller, dual clutch, and mid-engine package. That is my motivation for the move.


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