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buckwam 03-18-2021 04:53 PM

air intake results
 
Mishimoto claims 18 hp gain with their air intake kit while k&n lists a 6.5 hp increase. I did read on this forum that the stock air intake is not bad, so is mishimoto overly optimistic? Is it common for the computer CEL warning after installing the mishimoto?

https://www.mishimoto.com/chevrolet-...rettyPhoto/13/

Vtor_ZL1 03-18-2021 05:33 PM

Perhaps there was a peak of 18.. average gains though ?


Probably not worth the $$

HCI2000SS 03-18-2021 05:43 PM

18 hp is BS

UnknownJinX 03-18-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vtor_ZL1 (Post 10975640)
Perhaps there was a peak of 18.. average gains though ?


Probably not worth the $$

Espespecially on a turbocharged engine where you can get a canned tune for around the same money and get way more power.

For reference, I helped one of my friends flash a Eurodyne tune on his GTI a year or two back(he has a Macbook and the tuning program needs a Windows PC to work). It made 220 BHP stock and the Eurodyne tune was like CAN$300 or so and bumped the power up to about 300.

Warranty-wise I can see dealers give you trouble for an aftermarket intake as well so no advantage there over tuning, either. Just doesn't make sense...

Peak gain is about 14 WHP while the max gain is about 18 WHP. Speaking of this, another thing a tune does that an intake won't is really opening up the high-RPM power by maintaining that high-RPM torque. From what I understand, the LTG in the Camaro is tuned more like a family car turbo(good low-end torque but chokes itself when you rev past ~5500 RPM) than a performance turbo(not-as-good low-end but you get healthy power almost all the way to redline). My friend's GTI Eurodyne tune also addressed the same issue - the car felt more lively at higher RPM than before.

P.S.: I also just realized that everyone including me up to this point of the thread has a different engine for their 6th Gen Camaro. What a coincidence.

Start The Machine 03-19-2021 10:44 AM

The cpu will not allow any gains unless you unlock and tune it. More importantly, the stock air box is perfect. All you need to do is replace the intake tube from the air box to the turbo. Also, the Volossatech ram air is a nice piece to add as well.

adman98 03-19-2021 11:26 AM

Start--Which Volossatech ram air part would you recommend? I agree about the airbox. I do have the CAI from ZZP, but I'm thinking of putting the stock box back on. I'm getting a lot of dust and road debris in the engine bay with the open area. But def am keeping the intake tube.

I agree with everyone about the inflated hp for mishimoto, however, mishimoto does a great job on R&D. You all should check out their 3 part series on their intercooler. I for one was convinced by what they did and will be going with their IC rather then the front mount. But that's just my 2 cents.

buckwam 03-19-2021 12:25 PM

Thanks for the feedback. Does adding the mishimoto intake tube make a noticeable difference in performance or only a sound improvement.

adman98 03-19-2021 03:10 PM

It should give a performance improvement as the air will be streamlined to the turbo. When you take the stock tube off, you'll see what I mean. They made it to silence the turbo. I guess it's a nice design for the non racer/performance driver, but not for me.

Start The Machine 03-19-2021 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adman98 (Post 10976143)
Start--Which Volossatech ram air part would you recommend? I agree about the airbox. I do have the CAI from ZZP, but I'm thinking of putting the stock box back on. I'm getting a lot of dust and road debris in the engine bay with the open area. But def am keeping the intake tube.

I agree with everyone about the inflated hp for mishimoto, however, mishimoto does a great job on R&D. You all should check out their 3 part series on their intercooler. I for one was convinced by what they did and will be going with their IC rather then the front mount. But that's just my 2 cents.

It fits all 6th gen upper grills including 2.0T

https://www.velossatechdesign.com/pr...intake-snorkel

adman98 03-20-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Start The Machine (Post 10976357)
It fits all 6th gen upper grills including 2.0T

https://www.velossatechdesign.com/pr...intake-snorkel


I'm buying it... Thank you sir.

i4heavychevy 03-20-2021 08:21 PM

Question about the snorkel. I checked out the page and saw one for the zL1 and one for the Ss which one fits the 2.0 best?

Start The Machine 03-21-2021 04:36 PM

It's a universal fit for all 6th gen upper grills. I didn't notice an option for SS or ZL1. If there is, get the SS one I guess..

StPeteHyper2.0 03-29-2021 02:22 PM

Velossa was only tested on v8s. It doesn't list the 2.0 or v6 but it does fit universal. I've had it on for about a year with no negative effects. I don't have any data log testing but it does seem to help keep the turbo cooler and cools down quickly after pulls. It won't really effect cold side IATs at all but seems to help on the hot side. You may see more benefits in colder climates. Im in FL and so is Velossa.

StPeteHyper2.0 03-30-2021 10:24 AM

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For reference.. this is what my IATs look like after 10 minutes of easy cruising. Ambient temps were around 80ish and muggy due to rain in the area. Velossa seems to cool down the hot side easily. Give a light pull and the temps switch places then return after a few miles. Also my hot side temp is closer to the intercooler and the cold side is closer to the engine bay. So cold side tends to pick up some engine bay temps a bit more so this can be slightly skewed for reference.


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