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crysalis_01 10-07-2014 02:28 AM

2015 Mustang EcoBoost Dyno
 
The new 2.3EB hits the dyno:

http://www.svtperformance.com/?p=7205

Didn't want to click the link?

The car had less than 60 miles on the odometer and was still running the stock tune. It put down 276.85 horsepower and 286.72 lb-ft of torque to the wheels.

If the 310/320 is accurate that would equate to something akin to 11% drivetrain loss.

Jason@JacFab 10-07-2014 02:32 AM

Pretty cool! I'm pretty impressed with the FRPP Ecoboost dragstrip times, but can't wait to see what people can crank out with a bone stock car. This is better than the current v6 Camaro no doubt about it. Anxiously awaiting a turbo 4 cyl 6th gen. Crank up the boost and go!

KMPrenger 10-07-2014 08:13 AM

That low amount of drivetrain loss seems a bit low to me. That would be extremely efficient if it is true. Otherwise either that dyno is a bit generous or the car makes more than advertised.

I certainly didn't expect the HP to dyno more than a Camaro V6, but I expected the torque to be much higher. We'll see over time what other stock ecoboosts are doing on the dyno.

Torque hangs in their nicely until about 5,300 rpm. I figured it would drop off sooner.

GretchenGotGrowl 10-07-2014 08:15 AM

Nice

DGthe3 10-07-2014 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger (Post 7994675)
That low amount of drivetrain loss seems a bit low to me. That would be extremely efficient if it is true. Otherwise either that dyno is a bit generous or the car makes more than advertised.

I certainly didn't expect the HP to dyno more than a Camaro V6, but I expected the torque to be much higher. We'll see over time what other stock ecoboosts are doing on the dyno.

Torque hangs in their nicely until about 5,300 rpm. I figured it would drop off sooner.

Agreed. I'm pretty sure that for manual transmission cars, going through an IRS, the loss tends to be in the 13-16% range. So to be 15 to 30 percent more efficient than the normal range would be an incredible engineering breakthrough.


If Ford was as conservative as they could be with their rating and this was a particularly strong engine maybe it would put down 277 hp from an honest dyno. But it seems to me that whenever a newly introduced car is dyno'd, they make a bit more power than they're supposed to.
I would be leaning towards a happy dyno. I believe the engine is SAE certified, which means it can't be under-rated that much. Plus, if it was really making ~320-330 hp, why would Ford go through the trouble of detuning the V6 to widen the power gap between it an the ecoboast?

shaffe 10-07-2014 11:42 AM

I agree. Most likely a happy dyno

SpeedIsLife 10-07-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 7995051)
Agreed. I'm pretty sure that for manual transmission cars, going through an IRS, the loss tends to be in the 13-16% range. So to be 15 to 30 percent more efficient than the normal range would be an incredible engineering breakthrough.


If Ford was as conservative as they could be with their rating and this was a particularly strong engine maybe it would put down 277 hp from an honest dyno. But it seems to me that whenever a newly introduced car is dyno'd, they make a bit more power than they're supposed to.
I would be leaning towards a happy dyno. I believe the engine is SAE certified, which means it can't be under-rated that much. Plus, if it was really making ~320-330 hp, why would Ford go through the trouble of detuning the V6 to widen the power gap between it an the ecoboast?

Evidently the V6's intake manifold wouldn't fit under the new hood so they had to revise that, thus the slight HP drop.

matt55 10-07-2014 12:52 PM

I wonder.... was that eco pulling timing or boost at 5xxx rpm , something cut the fun short .

SpeedIsLife 10-07-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt55 (Post 7995267)
I wonder.... was that eco pulling timing or boost at 5xxx rpm , something cut the fun short .

Apparently that's a common complaint with this car, all the reviews have mentioned that the EcoBoost runs out of breath up top in stock form

crysalis_01 10-07-2014 01:44 PM

This is from a MotorTrend article.

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...23_first_test/

"But let's get back to that turbo-four, shall we? The best way to picture how an engine responds is through a power/torque graph such as the one above. If all you care about are peak figures, we recorded 279 hp on run three and 295 lb-ft of torque on run four. During five runs, output remained consistent. Torque stayed above 290 lb-ft for four out of the five runs, varying around 3 lb-ft. We're showing the chart with the best horsepower.

One thing of note: That dip in power around 5700 rpm appeared on all dyno runs. We're curious to find out what it is."

sspolo 10-07-2014 02:26 PM

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.4 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 31.0 sec

Car and Driver

PoorMansCamaro 10-07-2014 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@JacFab (Post 7994506)
Pretty cool! I'm pretty impressed with the FRPP Ecoboost dragstrip times, but can't wait to see what people can crank out with a bone stock car. This is better than the current v6 Camaro no doubt about it. Anxiously awaiting a turbo 4 cyl 6th gen. Crank up the boost and go!

unfortunately, I have a feeling the turbo 4 for the Camaro will be around 275 crank hp.

Ryanbabz71 10-07-2014 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@JacFab (Post 7994506)
Pretty cool! I'm pretty impressed with the FRPP Ecoboost dragstrip times, but can't wait to see what people can crank out with a bone stock car. This is better than the current v6 Camaro no doubt about it. Anxiously awaiting a turbo 4 cyl 6th gen. Crank up the boost and go!


If you believe the Camaro chief engineer as long as he has the job the camaro will never have a 4 cylinder


Ryan

crysalis_01 10-07-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanbabz71 (Post 7995718)
If you believe the Camaro chief engineer as long as he has the job the camaro will never have a 4 cylinder


Ryan

That's a bit of a misquot. While he may "fight for every cylinder" the market demand may overrule his desire to have no less than six cylinders in Camaro.


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