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New Hydro Silver paint
Less weight More Z28 RS lights on all models Bigger Spoilers on all models Z28 Twin Turbo V6 Direct Injection V8 Z28 New Upper grill, not like the ZL1. Maybe like the Leno Gills that you can see New Rear Diffuser Z28 Redesigned interior to make it even more sick 2014 release year and Go Sabres |
Twin-Turbo V6
Z/28 Completely Redesigned Interior (but keep it retro) More Customization |
1. Improved acceleration against Mustang variants.
2. Reduced weight. 3. Distinctive styling with cues to the camaros of yesteryear. Refrain from using contemporary japanese or european styling trends. 4. Don't even think about a turbo v6 for the Camaro SS and above. It would be better to eliminate the 'SS than to compromise it with a 6 or 4 cylinder engine. 5. More exciting color choices. For me, the 5th gen left me wanting a bit for enticing color choices. The ABM was a nice start but since it was eliminated, I was left without a suitable replacement (BRM and CRT were nice choices though). The fifth gen did a great job in resurrecting the camaro. The camaro has to gain a bit more ground in its acceleration and power numbers with the top of the line camaro going forward. |
Paint.................. it currently sucks!!!!!:barf:
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You're as surly as I am!!!!! (...I KNEW I liked you for some reason!!!) to everyone else: Just kidding! We ARE looking at your notes. Some are doable - some are not. Further, you're very well represented by our "12 Disciples of which there are 15!" |
ah yes -- hideaway headlamps.
Now - before I go further: I LOVED hide-away headlamps on the 1st gens - as well as Corvette and Caprice (68, 69) and El Dorado (67 and 68) -- That said: has anyone EVER seen a 1st Gen Camaro where the headlamp doors align properly? Also - it adds a ton of weight. What IS true: lighting comes in several forms today -- does it HAVE to have doors? What about 'hidden' behind grille bars? I see some good stuff here....but a word of caution: I want you to think about the weight issue. How important is it? Remember -- the car must remain 'refined' as the 5th gen in terms of everyday use - and it must earn a 5-star crash rating. I bring this up because if you look thru the thread - there are many "lose weight!" followed by "Cooled seats" ( +weight!) "Cimate Control" ( ++ weight) "Hideaway headllights" ( + weight!) "T-tops" (++++++++++++++++ weight!) etc. Take some time and think it thru............we're listening. (...but while our engineers are amazing, they haven't yet figured out how to change the rules of physics......they're workin' on it...........but...........) |
Blind spot monitoring. My wife's car (Mazda) has it and it's fantastic.
Standard rear view reverse camera. Again, my wife's Mazda has it. NAVIGATION without a monthly fee. It's 2013!!! |
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Agree with the fbodfather... Hide aways are a cool concept, but have too many negatives. I actually think the HID RS lights are spot on. Great functionality, and make the car recognizable. |
fbodfather, thanks for posting your thoughts!
Many great ideas posted so far. Weight target should be 3400 with a v8. Continue the 1st gen theme, the next gen will be slightly smaller, and on a different platform so it will look different than our current car. Dont forget 1st gen cues are why the current car has been so successful. I love my 12', but- Slim the rear end a bit, current car has a "fat butt" look. 1st gen cars have that muscular, sporty look but have a simpler, lean feel too. Front end- less pinched, less evil. Still sporty, but like the first gens, cleaner and leaner. Paint durability, if europe can do it we can too. Strategiclly placed clear film another option. LED lighting packages. Like the behind grille light bar vs actual hideaway lamps idea. Updated interior electronics package (color graphics, HD screen(s), many guage display options) abllity to choose from ECM PIDS what to display in HUD or dash info center. C7 and current ZL1 come to mind here. In dash shift light bright enough to work from peripheral vision. Yes Fbodfather, auto climate control. A sensor or two and programing, worth the minimal weight gain. Modern interior with minimal cues to previous generations. Same LT1 v8 as vette option. No detuning. No t-tops. Hold the line on pricing, 35G for loaded v8 trim. LT HO 4 or DI V6 engine options (sporty, fun, fast) SS V8, sport suspension (affordable muscle) Mag ride optional? Z28 V8, with manually adjusted shocks, track suspension (affordable, track capable) ZL1 Blown or larger displacement V8 (650-700hp), mag ride (top dog) Yes, the next gen is a huge challange. Keeping the car within weight targets without the use of carbon and other exotic materials that would drive the price up is difficult. Ok, we have to remember this is not a Corvette, but it better be lighter than the next Mustang. If this is done and paired with these new DI V8s and trick V6's we will have another American Hot Rod that goes in the history books. Team Camaro you have done a great job so far, LT and SS and esp. the 1LE and ZL1! |
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