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gringo 11-29-2017 12:09 PM

WOT restriction until 4k rpms?
 
Does the LGX still have the WOT restriction until 4K rpms like the old LFX?

Beast-Y-Blue 11-29-2017 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gringo (Post 9992294)
Does the LGX still have the WOT restriction until 4K rpms like the old LFX?

auto yes manual no.
I have a 2.0t Camaro but its the same for v6 and v8

CamaroBruno 11-30-2017 09:47 AM

Wait, what is this WOT restriction?

gringo 12-01-2017 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroBruno (Post 9993393)
Wait, what is this WOT restriction?

It's where the throttle blade does NOT open 100% until 4k rpms are reached. On the LFX, it was actually hardcoded into the ECU. Not even a tune could fully remove it.

When you WOT from a stop, it will restrict the throttle until you reach 4k rpms. When you reach 4k rpms, the ECU will allow the throttle blade to open up fully.

dgriff14 12-01-2017 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gringo (Post 9994445)
It's where the throttle blade does NOT open 100% until 4k rpms are reached. On the LFX, it was actually hardcoded into the ECU. Not even a tune could fully remove it.

When you WOT from a stop, it will restrict the throttle until you reach 4k rpms. When you reach 4k rpms, the ECU will allow the throttle blade to open up fully.

Interesting. Is this hard coded into the LGX as well? I'm getting the Trifecta tune mostly because I read it added more low end power and this could be what it's fixing (if it isn't hard coded, of course).

Camarolover85 12-01-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gringo (Post 9994445)
It's where the throttle blade does NOT open 100% until 4k rpms are reached. On the LFX, it was actually hardcoded into the ECU. Not even a tune could fully remove it.

When you WOT from a stop, it will restrict the throttle until you reach 4k rpms. When you reach 4k rpms, the ECU will allow the throttle blade to open up fully.

This is why everyone bought the vitesse throttle controllers.

gringo 12-01-2017 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dgriff14 (Post 9994587)
Interesting. Is this hard coded into the LGX as well? I'm getting the Trifecta tune mostly because I read it added more low end power and this could be what it's fixing (if it isn't hard coded, of course).

I don't know. I use to think that the LGX didn't have the WOT restriction since the performance improvement over the LFX was more than the weight savings alone could account for.

If we assume an average weight loss of about 250 lbs and the 10-12 hp difference, that would make the 6sp manual LGX around 3-4 tenths faster than a 6sp manual LFX. I'm keeping the A8 out of the discussion due to obvious reasons.

The LGX 6sp manual is rated at 5.3 secs from 0-60 and 13.7 in the 1/4 mile. The LFX 6sp manual was rated at 5.9 secs from 0-60 and 14.3 in the 1/4 mile. That's around 6/10ths of a difference.

Weight and hp difference add up to around 30 hp total. Where is the extra 3 tenths coming from? If GM eliminated the WOT restriction on the LGX, that could explain it.

lt4camaro 12-12-2017 06:53 PM

I have a 2016 manual 1LT v6, no throttle hold back at all. The car responds to wot at 2000,3000 etc. I notice no change after 4000 at wot.

lt4camaro 12-12-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gringo (Post 9995244)
I don't know. I use to think that the LGX didn't have the WOT restriction since the performance improvement over the LFX was more than the weight savings alone could account for.

If we assume an average weight loss of about 250 lbs and the 10-12 hp difference, that would make the 6sp manual LGX around 3-4 tenths faster than a 6sp manual LFX. I'm keeping the A8 out of the discussion due to obvious reasons.

The LGX 6sp manual is rated at 5.3 secs from 0-60 and 13.7 in the 1/4 mile. The LFX 6sp manual was rated at 5.9 secs from 0-60 and 14.3 in the 1/4 mile. That's around 6/10ths of a difference.

Weight and hp difference add up to around 30 hp total. Where is the extra 3 tenths coming from? If GM eliminated the WOT restriction on the LGX, that could explain it.

Aren't the v6 cars close to 300 lbs lighter? that is about .3 right there. Add the 12 horses and not sure how much more torque and that's another .1
+

PolynesianPowerhouse 12-13-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lt4camaro (Post 10007539)
Aren't the v6 cars close to 300 lbs lighter? that is about .3 right there. Add the 12 horses and not sure how much more torque and that's another .1
+

Granted i have an auto. I just did the scales at MIR a few weeks back. 3850 with me sitting in the car. Im good for close to 400lbs...maybe closer to 375 right now since its been colder.


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