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PDXSSCE 01-10-2019 05:32 PM

Suspension vs Wheel Size & Offset
 
I'm wondering if a Camaro 2.0T with 18x8.5 32mm offset wheels from the factory and a Camaro 2.0T with 20x8.5 25mm offset wheels from the factory have identical or different suspension setups?

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Alpha1BC 01-11-2019 03:10 PM

Yes, they should both have identical suspensions (FE2 RPO code). Only time a 2.0T camaro would have different suspension is if it's a 1LE.

PDXSSCE 01-11-2019 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha1BC (Post 10407860)
Yes, they should both have identical suspensions (FE2 RPO code). Only time a 2.0T camaro would have different suspension is if it's a 1LE.

I don't understand the reason that the 18" and 20" offsets are different, when the width of the wheels are the same? I thought the diameter is unrelated to the offset.

vtirocz 01-11-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE (Post 10408026)
I don't understand the reason that the 18" and 20" offsets are different, when the width of the wheels are the same? I thought the diameter is unrelated to the offset.

The offset is independent of the diameter. The lower offset (given the same width) will push the wheels out further for a more aggressive stance.

PDXSSCE 01-11-2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vtirocz (Post 10408107)
The offset is independent of the diameter. The lower offset (given the same width) will push the wheels out further for a more aggressive stance.

I understand, so from a performance aspect, is the higher offset (if the diameters were equal) better because it brings the wheels in?

Scargoes 01-11-2019 11:22 PM

To figure out why the offset is different, you need to look at the OD of the 18" and 20" setup. If they are the same OD the offset would be the same for both. But if the OD is different, the change in offset will help maintain the desired scrub radius.

PDXSSCE 01-11-2019 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scargoes (Post 10408190)
To figure out why the offset is different, you need to look at the OD of the 18" and 20" setup. If they are the same OD the offset would be the same for both. But if the OD is different, the change in offset will help maintain the desired scrub radius.

If wheel diameter doesn't affect offset, why does tire diameter affect it? Is it a matter of clearance?

vtirocz 01-13-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scargoes (Post 10408190)
To figure out why the offset is different, you need to look at the OD of the 18" and 20" setup. If they are the same OD the offset would be the same for both. But if the OD is different, the change in offset will help maintain the desired scrub radius.

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE (Post 10408205)
If wheel diameter doesn't affect offset, why does tire diameter affect it? Is it a matter of clearance?

The 18" setup's tires (245/50-18) have an OD of 27.6457".

The 20" setup's tires (245/40-20) have an OD of 27.7165", or about 0.07" different from the 18" setup.

That's pretty close.

Alpha1BC 01-14-2019 09:12 AM

It could possibly be a brake clearance thing? 20s are meant to fit the SS package with the 4-piston Brembos, and I'd assume that brake package requires more room than the base floating caliper on the LTs.

BradfordCamaro 01-14-2019 01:52 PM

Wheels pushed out more just look better.
GM wants to give you a reason to upgrade your wheels when you buy the car.

PDXSSCE 01-14-2019 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro (Post 10410008)
Wheels pushed out more just look better.
GM wants to give you a reason to upgrade your wheels when you buy the car.

Yes, it makes sense, but unfortunately it affects the scrub radius.

JaxChris 01-17-2019 02:54 AM

If you want the outside face of the wheel to stay in the same spot when you go to a wider or thinner wheel, the offset must change to keep the mounting interface at the same place with the hub face.

Pretend this is the top down view of your front left wheel and you want to keep the outside (left) edge of either wheel flush with the fender.

|----i------|
|----i----|

On the thinner wheel the offset is 0 (middle), but to keep that front left wheel at the same outer position, the wider wheel needs to move the offset away from the middle.

PDXSSCE 01-17-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JaxChris (Post 10412641)
If you want the outside face of the wheel to stay in the same spot when you go to a wider or thinner wheel, the offset must change to keep the mounting interface at the same place with the hub face.

Pretend this is the top down view of your front left wheel and you want to keep the outside (left) edge of either wheel flush with the fender.

|----i------|
|----i----|

On the thinner wheel the offset is 0 (middle), but to keep that front left wheel at the same outer position, the wider wheel needs to move the offset away from the middle.

I understand that part. It seems that one must choose between appearance and handling when choosing aftermarket wheels because of the scrub radius. The wheels sitting further out look better but it affects how the car handles.


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