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rfm4000 06-16-2018 05:15 PM

Tire repairable yes or no?
 
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dealership says needs to be replaced, im thinking otherwise, but im ordering 1 tire anyway
has 5500 miles on it, do I need one or 2 fronts?

MatthewAMEL 06-16-2018 05:19 PM

Daily or more demanding?

For daily I would patch, no problem.

Track or AutoX, replace.

full*throttle*therapy 06-16-2018 06:07 PM

I just went through the same thing except I had 1200m on mine. I had it patched, but then had them put a new tire on it anyways ( I did an HPDE event that weekend).
check your tread depth and make sure you're within acceptable deviation.

I am keeping my old tire RR, and have a line on another one (LR) that was patched that I will keep for later (ab)use. Line lock testing officer, factory option dontchyaknow.

Boost Creep 06-16-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rfm4000 (Post 10220206)
:mad0260:

dealership says needs to be replaced, im thinking otherwise, but im ordering 1 tire anyway
has 5500 miles on it, do I need one or 2 fronts?

That is in the side wall technically and needs to be replaced.
https://www.sullivantire.com/-/media...19C57F94&la=en

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Originally Posted by Sullivantire
As stated previously (image above), if a puncture from a nail or other objects is outside of the puncture repair area, the tire can't be repaired safely.

The repairs are limited to the middle, or "crown" area of the tire only. The crown is defined as the center of the tread, approximately 1 to 1.5 inches in from each shoulder. For most tires, the puncture repair area can also be defined by the first major groove on both shoulders.

A tire's belt package provides strength and rigidity to the tread area of a tire, and is the only part of the tire that can accept a repair.


Wierd Harold 06-16-2018 06:56 PM

Patch it give it a try ,not going to explode

indyz 06-16-2018 09:40 PM

Some shops will, some won't. The reaming tool makes the hole worse. You may need to be ready with about 16oz of green slime in case it starts leaking again. Then replace the tire when you can afford to or want to

Mountain 06-16-2018 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wierd Harold (Post 10220266)
Patch it give it a try ,not going to explode

Bring it to Discount/Americas Tire. If it can be fixed, they will, and only make the safe call. FYI, I drove on a repaired Hankook RS3 that I used for track and autox - repaired at Discount (plug and patch). Those tires went to a buddy who used them for fun at track days a year after. No issues at all. The repaire was real close to where the main tread starts to curve into the sidewall. Still the “repairable area”, but the Discount guys told me to monitor pressure and if it starts to leak, replace it. Otherwise, run it.

JamesNoBrakes 06-17-2018 12:24 AM

I can't see any shop repairing that, it's the sidewall.

GrimReaperSS 06-17-2018 10:12 AM

The image posted by Boost Creep is from the U.S. Tire Manufacturers Association (ustires.org). As a tech for the last 16 years, I would not patch that tire, wouldnt want my name attached to that repair order. Could you patch it? Sure
Should you patch it? No. The problem is where the nail/screw is... the patch or plug-n-patch is larger than the area of that puncture. The repair will cover the curve of the tire and as you drive that section flexes over bumps and turns. This will constantly work that patch back and forth eventually making it let go. Also, that tire has the highest speed rating available, but once punctured/repaired, that rating no longer applies. What it falls to I dont know, but not anywhere near the sustain speeds its rated for.

HackSaw 06-17-2018 02:42 PM

Agree to close to the side. I just had one repaired but it was almost in the middle and thru the thickest part

TJay74 06-17-2018 07:59 PM

I am gonna say NO as well. A little too close to the sidewall for my as well. I would replace both rear tires. You dont want to run a new tire and a 5500 mile tire. The tread difference is enough to eventually cause wear issues with the diff clutches.

AZ_1LE 06-17-2018 10:15 PM

For what it's worth, I have a patch in almost the SAME exact spot in one of my rear tires, they did a patch, it's held air for 4 months and 2k miles now, plus a track day and a canyon run. No problems.

meyouand987.2 06-17-2018 10:33 PM

I have tracked F1 Eagle's with multiple plugs in that area. If one lets go, it's just a leak, not a "kaboom" plug it and go on.

Mountain 06-17-2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GrimReaperSS (Post 10220656)
The image posted by Boost Creep is from the U.S. Tire Manufacturers Association (ustires.org). As a tech for the last 16 years, I would not patch that tire, wouldnt want my name attached to that repair order. Could you patch it? Sure
Should you patch it? No. The problem is where the nail/screw is... the patch or plug-n-patch is larger than the area of that puncture. The repair will cover the curve of the tire and as you drive that section flexes over bumps and turns. This will constantly work that patch back and forth eventually making it let go. Also, that tire has the highest speed rating available, but once punctured/repaired, that rating no longer applies. What it falls to I dont know, but not anywhere near the sustain speeds its rated for.

Same as RMA it seems. When I was a tech, I seem to remember a wider repair area. Have they moved more conservative for decreased liability?


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