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XXX ZL1 08-02-2023 08:48 PM

Official PANTHER BLACK MATTE 6th Gen Camaro Thread
 
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First pics I’ve seen.

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arpad_m 08-12-2023 09:58 PM

It's missing the Panther fender badge, though

CamaroBody 08-26-2023 04:21 AM

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Bumbleboy92 09-13-2023 12:49 PM

Not mine but it’s VIN 0001

https://www.facebook.com/652883857/p...ibextid=cr9u03

He has more photos and videos on his profile, also mentions Raiti’s Ride’s did a video so that’ll probably be uploaded within a few days

GearheadSS 09-13-2023 01:23 PM

That's probably a CTF unit which will not be the regular production #001 CE. If the CE ZL1s have a special VIN, the regular production cars will have a 001 as well but there will be a digit that's different in the VIN. I wonder if this one will make it out the public or if it will stay with GM?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is the one that was photographed at LGR a while back.

edit, I just checked and the Z4B ZL1s don't have a special VIN in that they won't start at 001 and end at 350. They will be numbered but only on the interior plaque. I'm still betting that one is a CTF or Show Vehicle so I wonder if the VIN is 001 or if has the interior plaque with 001.

Bumbleboy92 09-13-2023 02:15 PM

I can see it now, this exact car being on a dealer auction for $300k in a few years :facepalm:

I’m sure with Raiti’s video we’ll have the answer to the plaque number, the car was locked for normal guests but they unlocked it for his video

Bumbleboy92 09-14-2023 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GearheadSS (Post 11358702)
That's probably a CTF unit which will not be the regular production #001 CE. If the CE ZL1s have a special VIN, the regular production cars will have a 001 as well but there will be a digit that's different in the VIN. I wonder if this one will make it out the public or if it will stay with GM?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is the one that was photographed at LGR a while back.

edit, I just checked and the Z4B ZL1s don't have a special VIN in that they won't start at 001 and end at 350. They will be numbered but only on the interior plaque. I'm still betting that one is a CTF or Show Vehicle so I wonder if the VIN is 001 or if has the interior plaque with 001.

Got the answer for you, probably more videos coming in the next few days from those that went to the auto show but this guy got the VIN in frame

(2:45 Timestamp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM3defO7LGg

1G1FJ1R6XR0100021

That’s what I could decipher with the video being 480p, hopefully by the morning it’ll process HD (unless the person didn’t film HD for whatever reason). Definitely CTF or show car, whenever Raiti posts his video then we’ll see the plaque

SwL_Wildcat 09-14-2023 09:39 AM

^ Yes. Window sticker for #1 of 350



https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...FJ1R6XR0100021

mlee 09-14-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GearheadSS (Post 11358702)
That's probably a CTF unit which will not be the regular production #001 CE. If the CE ZL1s have a special VIN, the regular production cars will have a 001 as well but there will be a digit that's different in the VIN. I wonder if this one will make it out the public or if it will stay with GM?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is the one that was photographed at LGR a while back.

edit, I just checked and the Z4B ZL1s don't have a special VIN in that they won't start at 001 and end at 350. They will be numbered but only on the interior plaque. I'm still betting that one is a CTF or Show Vehicle so I wonder if the VIN is 001 or if has the interior plaque with 001.

This is one of two already built and part of the 350. My bet is it ends up in the hands of a GM employee. 10 of these cars were available to a short list and they had to confirm yes or no by end of July

mlee 09-14-2023 10:00 AM

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Bumbleboy92 09-14-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SwL_Wildcat (Post 11359034)
^ Yes. Window sticker for #1 of 350



https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...FJ1R6XR0100021

Thank you for that, I didn’t understand the VIN but looking at an older year’s VIN breakdown I had a misunderstanding with the check digit. Turns out X just means if the remainder is 10 and not 0-9 which is interesting

SwL_Wildcat 09-15-2023 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bumbleboy92 (Post 11359144)
Thank you for that, I didn’t understand the VIN but looking at an older year’s VIN breakdown I had a misunderstanding with the check digit. Turns out X just means if the remainder is 10 and not 0-9 which is interesting




It wasn't just that one that had the X check digit, there are more CE's that have it. I'm not sure how the remainder part works?



https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...FK3D6XR0106191


https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...FK3D6XR0106210


What I did notice is

If the 5th digit is a J it's a manual, if it's a K it's an automatic.
If the 6th & 7th digits are 1R it's a coupe, if they are 3D it's a convertible.

I thought it odd they would use 2 digits to signify coupe/convertible when 1 would be enough.

arpad_m 09-15-2023 08:00 AM

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It wasn't just that one that had the X check digit, there are more CE's that have it. I'm not sure how the remainder part works?



https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...FK3D6XR0106191


https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...FK3D6XR0106210


What I did notice is

If the 5th digit is a J it's a manual, if it's a K it's an automatic.
If the 6th & 7th digits are 1R it's a coupe, if they are 3D it's a convertible.

I thought it odd they would use 2 digits to signify coupe/convertible when 1 would be enough.

Here's the 2018 Camaro VIN card, you can extrapolate the 2024 info from it.

Technically, digit 6 alone indicates body type, but digit 7 is dependent on it because of the roof airbag that only fits the coupe.

The "X" check digit is not particularly meaningful or special, it simply denotes a "10" because the calculation involves a modulo 11 operation. Model years go in alphabetical order, skipping anything easily mistaken for another letter (for example, MY 2017 was an H, but 2018 is a J).


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