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mt.nichols 05-29-2019 08:38 AM

mt.nichols' 2019 ZL1 1LE Track Toy
 
Hi all,

I figured I'd start a journal to keep track of my experiences with my '19 ZL1 1LE. It is primarily a track car, so if you came in here expecting a big HP build.. you're gonna have a bad time. I came from a 2012 GTR that I had modified for track duty as I became more interested in it. Long story short, the car just simply didn't like it and I was getting bored after my first 5 track days.

Here's a shot of the GTR at Eagles Canyon Raceway:
https://i.imgur.com/dLAgvfE.jpg

The day I bought the ZLE "used" with 275 miles on the odometer
https://i.imgur.com/OhYFZ46.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HPGa0zp.jpg

After buying the car, I immediately changed the brake fluid for Castrol SRF and had the car aligned per the GM performance manual (-2.7 deg front camber, -2.0 rear). I then finished up the break in period and was ready to hit the track!

Track Day #1 on 2/23/19: Texas Motor Speedway Infield (CW configuration)
Notes: first track day with the car (and any high hp RWD platform), 6th track day in my life. Loads more rotation than the GTR, going to have to change my driving style quite a bit. Car loves trail braking and on throttle rotation is excellent
  • Tires: Goodyear Supercar 3R (stock)
  • Brakes: Stock pads, Castrol SRF
  • Power: Stock
  • Best Lap: 38.88
https://i.imgur.com/NlrHXrh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xpuVQUu.jpg

Shadow black camo wrap, also added Flowmaster American Thunder axleback and deleted the secondary cats
https://i.imgur.com/vgAKw9a.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GrRmGWV.jpg

Track Day #2 on 3/19/19: MSR Cresson 1.7 CCW configuration
Notes: added a RotoFab dry filter CAI before this event. Still learning the car but love the consistent grip of the SC3R
  • Tires: Goodyear Supercar 3R (stock)
  • Brakes: Stock pads, Castrol SRF
  • Power: Stock
  • Best Lap: 1:21.15
https://youtu.be/XYUfMXVBqWs
https://i.imgur.com/0BnlOca.jpg

Track Day #3 on 4/1/19: MSR Cresson 3.1 CCW configuration
Notes: corded both fronts in the second to last session of the day, tires had ~1,500 street miles and about 10 sessions on them. Everything felt great otherwise.
  • Tires: Goodyear Supercar 3R (stock)
  • Brakes: Stock pads, Castrol SRF
  • Power: Stock
  • Best Lap: 2:23.58
https://i.imgur.com/hfU6zEP.jpg

I was a bit disappointed with the life of the stock Goodyear SC3R, so I decided to try some NT01s in hopes of better tire life. I went with stock sizes (305/30/19 and 325/30/19).
While waiting at Discount Tire, I noticed I've been working the brakes a bit :smiling1:
https://i.imgur.com/TvDU6Dh.jpg

Track Day #4 on 4/9/19: MSR Cresson 1.7 CCW configuration
Notes: first day on NT01s and they definitely felt softer than the GYs on turn in
  • Tires: Nitto NT01 (stock sizes)
  • Brakes: Stock pads, Castrol SRF
  • Power: Stock
  • Best Lap: 1:21.15
https://youtu.be/F4DPtyhKbbQ
https://i.imgur.com/Y10Q3vv.jpg

Track Day #5 on 4/14/19: TMS infield CW
Notes: damp track to start the day but dry conditions and ~75 deg for most sessions
  • Tires: Nitto NT01 (stock sizes)
  • Brakes: Stock pads, Castrol SRF
  • Power: Stock
  • Best Lap: 37.78
https://i.imgur.com/BSQ5yYI.jpg


I decided to upgrade the pads, stock pads still have some life left in them for street use. I went with GLoc R12 front and R10 rear.
https://i.imgur.com/jQ11zzH.jpg

Track Day #6 on 5/13/19: MSR Cresson 3.1 CCW configuration
Notes: lots of water on track affected braking and acceleration for the entire day, NT01s corded during second to last session of the day. Braking felt great with the new pads, tons of initial bite and stopping power
  • Tires: Nitto NT01 (stock sizes)
  • Brakes: GLoc R12/R10, Castrol SRF
  • Power: Stock
  • Best Lap: 2:23.46

I'm obviously burning through tires quickly, so I decided to go with some 18s and slicks since they can be had for cheap. I'm working with BC Forged for the wheels; I'll post specs and pics when everything is finalized. I did get my first set of slicks.. Continentals in 305/680/18 front and 315/680/18 rear. I'll probably try 315 square if I like the feel of these.
https://i.imgur.com/hgF0q9q.jpg

I'm taking a break for the summer, then I will be going to COTA in October. It'll be my first time there, and my first time on slicks. I do plan on adding the Garage Therapy brake cooling kit to offset the reduction in air gap between the 18 and 19 inch wheels. I'll have that done before COTA for sure.

Anyways, I'll keep this thread updated as I go. Thanks for looking!

mt.nichols 06-28-2019 11:20 AM

New wheels should be shipping out soon! 18" BC Forged EH172. More details to come when I put them on the car.

https://i.imgur.com/HJFTSSr.jpg

kropscamaro16 06-28-2019 11:33 AM

nice looking car and good to see you using it for what its mean for! are slicks cheaper than the goodyears? my buddy in socal tom just got some 18s also and has been using scrubs aka used slicks

mt.nichols 06-28-2019 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16 (Post 10557561)
nice looking car and good to see you using it for what its mean for! are slicks cheaper than the goodyears? my buddy in socal tom just got some 18s also and has been using scrubs aka used slicks

Thanks! This car is far too much fun on a track to be left in a garage :biggrin:

Scrubs are ~$600/set and seems like they last about 8-10 sessions before they heat cycle out and available grip drops off. This is all speculative and based off of what I have read on the forums. I plan on heavily documenting my experience with slicks vs. road tires, so we will see!

FWIW, my Goodyears lasted about 3 track days (~12 sessions) and 1500 street miles before I was showing cords on the inside of the fronts. They're ~$1300/set, so I think the slicks make sense but again, time will tell.

kropscamaro16 06-28-2019 11:50 AM

oh nice makes sense he got some signature series wheels

ZL1 1LE 06-28-2019 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16 (Post 10557561)
nice looking car and good to see you using it for what its mean for! are slicks cheaper than the goodyears? my buddy in socal tom just got some 18s also and has been using scrubs aka used slicks

Tom is a slug! I mean snale. :bellyroll:

kropscamaro16 06-28-2019 03:01 PM

haha but he is fast on track!

Harpinc 06-28-2019 03:43 PM

So you ran identical times on NT01 and GY 3Rs? Also, mind PMing me specs on the 18 inch wheels as that what I ran on my M3 and want to do the same on the ZLE.. Good looking ride!!

mt.nichols 06-28-2019 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpinc (Post 10557791)
So you ran identical times on NT01 and GY 3Rs? Also, mind PMing me specs on the 18 inch wheels as that what I ran on my M3 and want to do the same on the ZLE.. Good looking ride!!

Yes, to be fair I had to make a pass on my best lap with the 3Rs. The NT01s I was able to get a completely clean lap, and had a few more track days under my belt with the car by then.

Specs on the wheels are 18x11 +8mm front and 18x12 +41mm rear. I'll be posting detailed pics on fitment, etc. when I get the wheels in next week.

mt.nichols 07-11-2019 06:25 AM

I had the slicks mounted to the 18" BC Forged wheels yesterday. I was nervous the fronts (305 width but 13" section width) would rub on the suspension but I have about a finger width of room between the tire and the upright/strut, so I should be good to go.

https://i.imgur.com/NMX57tI.jpg

Harpinc 07-11-2019 08:00 AM

Car looks great..
I'm wanting to go with some 18's too. Interested in seeing how you like the car on these. How much clearance do you have between the caliper and the barrel?

mt.nichols 07-11-2019 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpinc (Post 10568266)
Car looks great..
I'm wanting to go with some 18's too. Interested in seeing how you like the car on these. How much clearance do you have between the caliper and the barrel?

Thanks man! The clearance is tight enough that we had to be mindful of wheel weight placement/thickness when balancing the wheels. I'll get some pictures this weekend.

RUQWIKR 07-11-2019 10:15 AM

What PN's or construction code(s) are you using? Great deals on the discontinued ones.

https://shop.hoosiertire.com/index.p...it-racing.html

mt.nichols 07-11-2019 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUQWIKR (Post 10568383)
What PN's or construction code(s) are you using? Great deals on the discontinued ones.

https://shop.hoosiertire.com/index.p...it-racing.html

Shh, you're giving away the secrets! :biggrin: That's exactly where I got mine. I have the 20568 in the front and 20573 in the rear.

Do you happen to know what the P# (ex. P6500) denotes? I assume something to do with the compound, but I couldn't find anything on Hoosier's website or through a Google search.


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