Should I trade my 2010 2SS for a LT1
 

So I have a 2010 Camaro 2SS auto it’s just a bolt on car right now (headers high flow cats, intake and a cat back). I was getting ready to pull the trigger and go cam, have the heads ported and do a converter to match the cam. Then down the road go with a blower most likely a maggie

Then the other day I was on the chevy site and built a LT1 car with the auto and the price really isn’t bad. My goals for my ss were 550-600 whp and have a blower doing the cams and heads only came about Because the lifters in the l99 version of the ls3 are a weak point.I do drag race my car at my local track atco when I have time and I drive almost everyday. So I have a few question for you guys about the LT1. If I got an LT1 I would most likely custom order one first brand new car I’ll ever have bought I bought my ss used in 16.

1. Do you guy think it’s better to just build my current older ss or just hop on the LT1 train.

2. The recaros you can option in the LT1 the have the heated and cooled seats but they aren’t wired from what I seen on this forum is that true.

3. How do these lt1 motors handle and drive with boost not looking to go nuts just 550-600whp are my current goals. (Is there room to grow after)

4. How does the LT1 stack up to the 10 speed 5.0 I was looking at those as well and I have a buddy with a 15 pony with the auto 6 we have done work to and its fast!!

5. How do must cars come equipped from the dealer I heard the cars aren’t being built right now so ordering one might take a while. The must haves for me are auto, the tech pack, but I really want the recaros, dual mode exhaust, black wheels

Came from a 2011 myself, I can list multiple reasons why you should, but just to make it short and sweet. Pull the trigger and do it. Even stock, the magnetic suspension in these cars alone that allows you to just throw yourself into a corner in a way that my 5th gen couldnt was amazing enough to make up for the initial difference in power before you start modding.

Well if he wants magride I believe he will need to go to 1SS at least, not LT-1.

You’re right, that’s my bad I read it as 1LE lol

Just do it, get the LT1 with the 10 speed auto and have a ball.

I had a cam/bolt-on 2010 Camaro - see my sig for some details. It was a great car and great fun. I have now owned my 1SS for 5 years and have keep it stock except for some cosmetic stuff.

It is superior to the 2010. Even down about 60-70 rwhp compared to the 2010 the 2016 is faster and certainly corners better. The interior and electronics are much improved even when comparing the 5Gen 2SS trim level to the base 6Gen 1SS at the time and now the LT1. I'm on the wagon that says go for the new one.

Good luck with the decision.

Just find a used '17-'19 ZL1 and be done with it!

You'll have your 550+ WHP with no mods, and a full powertrain warranty for 5 years from original in-service date. After that ('23+) you can mod all you like and end up with 700+ WHP easily, and the LT4 can handle it.

Think about what you're going to be putting into that "new" LT1 to get you to your 550+ WHP goal:
Initial cost: 40K (?)
Blower kit: 8K+ (probably 10k+ if you can't install it yourself)
Wheels & tires (b/c the stock 245's aren't going to like 550 WHP): 3k+
Exhaust: 1-2k (?)

With just those you're up to 53-ish+, and you have a car with a voided warranty, no mag ride, and LT1 internals that will never withstand more than maybe 700 CHP without further changes.

Agreed, although now may not be a great time to buy one as used car prices are at an all time high.

OP, my advice would be if you want an LT1, I would try to look for one with just the automatic and no other options. When you build it with the extras you want, you will be deep in the $40K range, for that you may as well buy a 2SS sitting on the lot for basically the same price.

I have to agree about a ZL1! Find a used one and go from there. Sometimes miss my old 2010 2SS that was modded similar to yours but when I get behind the wheel of my 2017 ZL1 everything changes. I bought a used very low mileage 2017 ZL1 back in March 2019 and have no regrets so far. Good luck!��

If you want another Camaro you better you don’t know when or if they’ll stop making them

Lucky I got my LT1 when I did in March. They have pretty much dried up here in Canada (at least where I am) I had to drive almost 2 hours to get mine at a dealer. Auto's were more plentiful, MN6 few and far between.

The fit and finish of my 2021 so far seems excellent. I say go for the LT1, base options and have fun!

I am very happy with my LT-1. I was tired of leather and sunroof issues and just wanted a V8, stickshift, and the upgraded stereo.



No regrets, its a fun, comfy car, looks beautiful and I am not in love with the SS Spoiler.



I might add the 1LE spoiler on though.



I will recommend Crush, beautiful color.

A ZL1 doesn’t take much in the way of bolt-ones to hit 600RWHP. We’ve had the cost debate between modifying an LT1, & while its entirely feasible, you get a lot of car that is nearly impossible to duplicate (Such as the eLSD).

If you’re into drag racing the base LT1 is attractive, but I’m not sure if it has Track mode or line lock built in like SS & ZL1’s have.

Some food for thought.

Nope, us LT1s just have sport, tour, and snow/ice modes, that is it (at least mine anyway) Our "track" mode is turning that nannies off, haha.

What do used ZL1s go for? I imagine they're either hooned to high heavens or they're babied and driven 500 miles a year.

Depending on how specific of options and preference of usage/condition, a 6th gen ZL1 will run mid-$50k's and up. Its not a terribly small chunk of change (especially for something used) but they offer some *serious* performance/cost value IMO.

Well, I was guessing about correct on that then. Theyre a good value performance wise, for sure.

Yep, so they're not cheap in the general sense.. but they are certainly cheap for what they are! :D Then again, the same could be said for any of these cars with (at least) the NA LT1..

YES I would.


Or even a used SS from 2016 and newer (6th gen) The 6th gen is better in every department. It's quite a bit faster and a lot more premium.

The 5th Gen is the only Camaro I haven’t had the pleasure of either owning, or spending time in because a buddy owned one. Unfortunate for me i suppose.

I can say this though, the 6th Gen is a special ride. In these I’ve only been in SS’s or ZL1’s, but I can imagine the LT1 to be quite similar to the SS. If you can swing a 6th Gen, you’ll love it and you should (imo), go this way.

2SS to 2SS. Keep the creature comforts.

Do the cam...if you like the 5th gen old school muscle car look. Great upgrade for a 5th gen. And unless its a 1le or Zl1....I cant get past the 6th gen look.

First off thank all of you for your comments and thoughts. Doing some more research today and also taking a ride down to a local dealer I made some choices. That dealer is getting a 1lt in soon with most of the options I want basically everything but the recaros and in the color I want. So when that come in they will call me for a test drive.

I would love a zl1 6th gen but a little out of my price range.

And from my research and seeing what these do in the 1/4 mile. I think I could just do headers and other bolts and be happy for a while and when I want more power just go heads cam. These thing fly Na. Talked to the shop that does my tuning to and the head tuner loves these 1lt models.

My other question is if I get one with out the recaros what are some good seat options. That I can put in the car. Since I may go for the one the dealer is getting in rather then custom order a car

Dealer told me when I order it it will take 12-16 weeks to come in

I would order a LT1 with the options you want Mike including the Recaro seats. Go take a test drive in the one the dealer is getting in and make a decision if you want to buy it or order one. The Recaros are a nice option to get. Good luck!

You could always find a set of used Recaro pull-outs down the road...

FYI- no heat option available in the LT1. The cooling option can be made to work.

short answer - yes.

long answer - i skipped the 5th generation entirely with regard to camaros. had 3g & 4g. in 2018 i talked myself into a newer platform and began searching late 5g 1LE cars. at that time, for a few thousand more, i was into a (used) 6g 1LE.

when you drive a car and don't believe it's GMs cheap performance car, its time to pull the trigger. they're light years ahead of 5g in every performance regard.

Hi.
newby here from sweden. think i maybe trading my 2012 2ss for this bad boy
https://www.blocket.se/annons/stockh..._moms/94634011
going to look at it tomorrow. just wondering if it has magnetic suspension?
cant seem to find any info whether it has or not

Op my buddy picked this up recently..it has the RS package.I like the car...Lt1 with 10 speed and active exhaust. Hes doing soild rear cradle bushings with drag radials. Should run 11s all day. My 5th gen is going to be working against this car at the track.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/attac...1&d=1618156807

FYI on the "heat option", I negotiated in the price of Leather with Heat rather than the cloth. It's aftermarket through the dealer. The heat switch was placed on the sides of the chair, not the dash. But it does have high and low. Plus you can pick and choose on color of leather, perforations or not.

To the Op, you do what’s best for you and your situation!

I never owned a 5th Gen Camaro but rode in one a few times and while it was cool, I was not really impressed.

I test drove (then bought) a 2017 2SS and have been extremely impressed with the car.

The 6th Gen is way beyond the 5th Gen.

Never regretted going from 5th gen to 6th gen.

From mikemollc:

1. Do you guys think it’s better to just build my current older ss or just hop on the LT1 train.

• If you can afford to do it then it will be a nice performance and technology upgrade. But your 5th gen is a better car than the 6th gen. I have owned three 5th gens, a 2SS, a twin turbo 1LE, and a ZL1. I have also owned a 6th gen 2SS, a ZL1, and now an LT1. I thought that 2016 2SS was my favorite Camaro ever, but now my LT1 is the top dog overall. I paid about the same $$ on my LT1 as my 5th gen 2SS.And I got a good deal on that Camaro.

2. The recaros you can option in the LT1 the have the heated and cooled seats but they aren’t wired from what I seen on this forum is that true.

• This is true. And you can buy a hookup to add the seat ventilation. However seat ventilation on the Camaro is not effective hardly at all unless you have the AC on down low. As for me I would rather have the seat heater. The LT1 is the only V8 Camaro that comes with all seasons but yet you cannot get heated seats on an LT1.

3. How do these lt1 motors handle and drive with boost not looking to go nuts just 550-600whp are my current goals. (Is there room to grow after)

• The LT1 has the same suspension and front brakes as the SS so it will handle big power. But after ruining my 2013 1LE with twin turbos I would say you are better off with a ZL1 if that is what you want.

4. How does the LT1 stack up to the 10 speed 5.0 I was looking at those as well and I have a buddy with a 15 pony with the auto 6 we have done work to and its fast!!

• I can tell you stock my M6 LT1 runs with A10 Coyote Mustangs mildly modified both with a CAI and tires. Someone I raced often was a well driven 2020 A10 with the stock higher gears. They did not get the .355 option as they are planning a power adder later. I think out of 5 runs I only lost once where I overslept at the line and they edged me out. We both ran 12.1s my best was 12.10 similar to the Mustang. For sure in mineshaft Atco weather my LT1 is an 11 second car.

5. How do most cars come equipped from the dealer I heard the cars aren’t being built right now so ordering one might take a while. The must haves for me are auto, the tech pack, but I really want the recaros, dual mode exhaust, black wheels[/QUOTE]

• Good choices! Get the Recaros, they are some of the best sport seats in any car. I ordered with the famous Becky. And it was a great experience having my LT1 delivered in Motor city. But sadly she has moved on.

The difference between the new LT1 and the SSes is explained in this link:

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=577077

As an owner of a 2010 2SS, I am planning, if it ever is available, to replace it with a 2022 SS.

I don't get the whole LT1 thing, with mo cooling package and no tow hook receiver.

just traded my 2012..wow what a higher spec car. blown away with the extras included.
imho it's worth it just for the active exhaust and magneride. the upgrade imho just for those 2 things is worth the outlay

The main thing is that you'd be going from the Zeta chassis to the Alpha Chassis. It's much stiffer, solid, responsive, and lighter. You'd be going from a chassis with it's design roots going back to the late 1990s to a chassis specifically designed in the early 2010s for the Cadillac CTS and 6th gen Camaro. It feels like the whole car was carved out of one solid piece of lightweight aluminum alloy. The 6th gen was engineered as a true road carver from the ground up, and that in combination with the power you want to run will make you forget all about your 5th gen the first time you let it loose.

Hmmmm......

I guess it's personal preference but I drove a new 2SS in 2010 when they first came out, and compared to my 2SS? It felt a bit mushy and heavy.

If you do not plan to track your car semi seriously you do not need those things at all. So with the LT1 you get a lighter car in trade with less complexity and $$ in the long run. And with the LT1 you also get a "free" winter tire/wheelsetup. :) Still that is cool stuff just to have.

I do miss the tow hook at the drag strip but if I keep the power within reason and stay away from slicks I will have no use for it (hopefully).

Agreed. Oops, what I meant was with the 5th gen you get a usable back seat and more room inside. The CA6 Camaro is a better SPORTS car.