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Xyebo 10-04-2020 02:52 PM

Any experience with Dynamic Friction (DFC) performance brake pads?
 
I am looking to get some better brake pads for my 2018 Camaro LS with single piston stock brakes, and the performance options for these brakes are highly limited.
While browsing RockAuto I stumbled upon
DYNAMIC FRICTION 1000188600 Track/Street Pads https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...37525&jsn=1728.


This seems to be the only true track-ready option.
However, I never heard of Dynamic Friction Company, and I could not ever find any reviews for their products online.

Did any of you have any experience using their pads with spirited or track driving?

Xyebo 12-11-2020 06:36 PM

Update: a pal of mine said that Dynamic Friction is the same company as R1 Concepts.

Xyebo 03-13-2021 12:40 PM

Update II: I pulled a trigger and ordered the DFC "Street/Track" pads, I shall update once I install them.

Xyebo 04-04-2021 09:54 AM

Update III: the pads came in plain black boxes that just had the part number and a barcode. They also did NOT come with hardware, so I went back to Rockauto to order the DFC brake hardware.


I got the new pads put on. Per mechanic's advice, I drove 200 miles without any hard braking. At the 200 mi mark, I went to a local industrial area to do 10 hard stops from 50 mph to 10 mph to burnish the material.


On the street: when I start the car cold, the first 2 or 3 braking applications are very weird, but I guess that's because these low-metallic pads need to warm up. Once they warm up, the brake pads are definitely more touchy than anything I have tried before. They dust a lo-o-o-o-o-ot, so you better have black wheels or the patience for seeing black flakes on your shiny wheels.


On the track: I went to Buttonwillow Raceway here in California to do some regular lapping and hooning. Surprisingly, they did very well! If I drive at 7/10 or 8/10 of pace, I see little to no fade whatsoever. If I go at 9/10 or 10/10 with very hard braking, I see some minor fade after 4 or 5 laps. While no match for a designated track pad, this is still much-much better compared to the previous pads I tried on Camaro's single-piston brakes: the OEM ceramics and the Powerstop Z26 carbon-ceramics.


Conclusion: low noise, high dust, might take some time to warm up in cold (but not to a point of being anywhere near dangerous). Good pad for a street hoon and an occasional track day.

Xyebo 10-09-2021 07:39 PM

Update IV: I killed the pads 8500 miles later. Within this period, I have done 3 full track days (20mins x 4 sessions each), 50 autocross runs, a lot of very spirited mountain pass drives in tight Southern California canyons, + have used these "track/street" pads on my commute in heavy Los Angeles traffic.
I could have definitely got more life out of them, but the rear calipers/pads on LS/LT model are way too small.

Pad measurements before brake job:
FL: 4.5mm/3.5mm
FR: 4.5mm/4.00mm
RL: 4.5mm/3.25mm
RR: 3.75mm/2.75mm (wore down to the squealer tab)

Since there are no other retail track pad options for LS/LT calipers, I am sticking to DFC 1000.

Worst wear on rear right pad:
https://i.imgur.com/LYzesWE.jpg
&
https://i.imgur.com/iZtYOi9.jpg

Wear on one of the front pads:
https://i.imgur.com/sNLxLXA.jpg

kropscamaro16 10-11-2021 10:37 AM

time for big brake upgrade kit time or just call ken at kns brakes

Xyebo 10-16-2022 07:45 PM

Update V:


The third set of these DFC 1000 "Street/Track" has been the last time I buy these brakes. As my track skill has improved, my breaking demands had gone up, and this pad is simply NOT up to challenge.


My last set only lasted 5,000 miles, which involved: 1 track day at Laguna Seca (1:49) and 1 track day at Streets of Willow Springs (1:29), 2 autocross days at Fontana BigLot, 1 autocross day at a small parking lot, a few canyon runs, and plenty of daily duty. There are 2 key problems:


1. Pad destruction

The pads simply deteriorated to the point of large pad chunks falling off the backing plate. I am not sure whether I have gone too hard on them or whether it's a manufacturing defect - but I simply don't want to take any chances with them anymore. See pics below for their destruction:
https://i.imgur.com/7bCpMaB.jpg


2. Pad smear on the rotor
Despite taking necessary precautions after track or hard driving sessions (such as doing cool down laps and avoiding light braking), the pads would always smudge their pad material on the front rotors. They would typically disappear after 2 weeks of daily driving duty, but after my last track day at Streets of Willow, the pad material did not want to get scrubbed away by normal braking operation
https://i.imgur.com/EFyQvM9.jpg


Conclusion: DFC 1000 Street/Track pads might serve you well if you're just getting started, but as you up your driving game - they become subpar and outright dangerous (if you don't routinely inspect your brakes).
Finding performance brakes for base single-piston system on LS/LT trims is hard, but I finally found a worthy upgrade: EBC Bluestuff (P/Ns DP53065NDX for front, DP53064NDX for rear)

eaglesfan2006 05-15-2023 11:25 PM

What rotors where you running with these??

Xyebo 05-16-2023 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglesfan2006 (Post 11316948)
What rotors where you running with these??


The slotted rotors from CQUENCE Brakes. I believe they take Centric blank rotors and add the slots.


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