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Jnewcomer 12-23-2020 02:30 PM

HELP -Damaged exhaust control valve -Check engine on
 
Please help or provide feedback. Today of all days I took my 2020 Camaro SS/2 out to my work for the last time since it was 55 and sunny. I hit something on the road that ultimately turned on my Check engine light. Took the car to my local dealer to have to checked out and they informed me that one of the Exhaust control valve is smashed and that GM does not have that valve available and that I would have to purchase a complete Performance exhaust.

My gosh the Performance exhaust was only a $995 add on to the car build.

Does anyone know of any options I have other than purchase a $3500 GM exhaust?? So very frustrated. I have started to look at various after marker exhausts but very much confusing so I figured I would start here,,,

Chrome383Z 12-23-2020 04:11 PM

Turn it in to insurance... ?

SilverSurfer18 12-23-2020 04:30 PM

Personally i would buy a used one off somebody that bought aftermarket. They usually sell pretty cheap

BlackbeastSS2 12-23-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnewcomer (Post 10923913)
Please help or provide feedback. Today of all days I took my 2020 Camaro SS/2 out to my work for the last time since it was 55 and sunny. I hit something on the road that ultimately turned on my Check engine light. Took the car to my local dealer to have to checked out and they informed me that one of the Exhaust control valve is smashed and that GM does not have that valve available and that I would have to purchase a complete Performance exhaust.

My gosh the Performance exhaust was only a $995 add on to the car build.

Does anyone know of any options I have other than purchase a $3500 GM exhaust?? So very frustrated. I have started to look at various after marker exhausts but very much confusing so I figured I would start here,,,

One option is to send me some cash and u can have these ones. PM me if u want them.
I am pretty sure you can order these individual off a GM parts site. Wonder if it’s just a money grab by a hungry parts/service manager.

17rsvert 12-23-2020 05:29 PM

Wow, it's no longer a bad joke to say that it looks like you need new muffler bearings!

Jnewcomer 12-23-2020 06:21 PM

It appears what is damaged is call a Actuator??...WTF why didnt the dealership figure this out?....

Mark114 12-23-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnewcomer (Post 10923913)
Please help or provide feedback. Today of all days I took my 2020 Camaro SS/2 out to my work for the last time since it was 55 and sunny. I hit something on the road that ultimately turned on my Check engine light. Took the car to my local dealer to have to checked out and they informed me that one of the Exhaust control valve is smashed and that GM does not have that valve available and that I would have to purchase a complete Performance exhaust.

My gosh the Performance exhaust was only a $995 add on to the car build.

Does anyone know of any options I have other than purchase a $3500 GM exhaust?? So very frustrated. I have started to look at various after marker exhausts but very much confusing so I figured I would start here,,,

The AFM valves on an SS have two pieces to them. There is an electronic actuator as shown by BlackbeastSS2. And there is the actual mechanical valve the is welded into the exhaust pipe.

Unfortunately the exhaust is a large single piece from the factory. If the actuator was damaged then you can buy them new or used from many sources. If the mechanical valve was damaged then your options are to buy the whole exhaust (new or used) or find a mechanical valve and have an exhaust shop weld it in. It’s possible that an aftermarket exhaust vendor sells an AFM midpipe that would be less expensive than an entire exhaust. If you choose to replace the whole exhaust then you may find an aftermarket exhaust that you like better than the OEM exhaust for much less than $3500.

Puddin 12-23-2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnewcomer (Post 10924074)
It appears what is damaged is call a Actuator??...WTF why didnt the dealership figure this out?....

Sounds like they just want to take advantage of you and take your $3500. My whole exhaust setup from headers back cost less than $2500.

Jnewcomer 12-23-2020 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark114 (Post 10924091)
The AFM valves on an SS have two pieces to them. There is an electronic actuator as shown by BlackbeastSS2. And there is the actual mechanical valve the is welded into the exhaust pipe.

Unfortunately the exhaust is a large single piece from the factory. If the actuator was damaged then you can buy them new or used from many sources. If the mechanical valve was damaged then your options are to buy the whole exhaust (new or used) or find a mechanical valve and have an exhaust shop weld it in. It’s possible that an aftermarket exhaust vendor sells an AFM midpipe that would be less expensive than an entire exhaust. If you choose to replace the whole exhaust then you may find an aftermarket exhaust that you like better than the OEM exhaust for much less than $3500.

I am still sooo very confused. I took a pic of the part that is damaged and sent it to BlackbeastSS2. The part looks the same and its connected to the pipe in the middle portion of the car....

BlackbeastSS2 12-23-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnewcomer (Post 10924172)
I am still sooo very confused. I took a pic of the part that is damaged and sent it to BlackbeastSS2. The part looks the same and its connected to the pipe in the middle portion of the car....

It’s the right part. But as others have stated is there more damage then just one part. You might want to get a few opinions. Another dealership, exhaust shop.

Jnewcomer 12-23-2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark114 (Post 10924091)
The AFM valves on an SS have two pieces to them. There is an electronic actuator as shown by BlackbeastSS2. And there is the actual mechanical valve the is welded into the exhaust pipe.

Unfortunately the exhaust is a large single piece from the factory. If the actuator was damaged then you can buy them new or used from many sources. If the mechanical valve was damaged then your options are to buy the whole exhaust (new or used) or find a mechanical valve and have an exhaust shop weld it in. It’s possible that an aftermarket exhaust vendor sells an AFM midpipe that would be less expensive than an entire exhaust. If you choose to replace the whole exhaust then you may find an aftermarket exhaust that you like better than the OEM exhaust for much less than $3500.

I am still sooo very confused. I took a pic of the part that is damaged and sent it to BlackbeastSS2. The part looks the same and its connected to the pipe in the middle portion of the car....

Jnewcomer 12-23-2020 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Puddin (Post 10924115)
Sounds like they just want to take advantage of you and take your $3500. My whole exhaust setup from headers back cost less than $2500.

But does your car have the option to change exhaust notes :
Sport
Track
ICE/SNOW

When you had your original exhaust removed did you have any check engine light issues?

Jnewcomer 12-23-2020 08:46 PM

What confuses me most is if I do go to a aftermarket full exhaust wont some these valves off my original unit be needed?. This is the piece I dont understand. Sure I can rip out the whole unit but than I would lose the ability to change modes correct and will the check engine still be on. The hard part here is that I am not auto mechanic knowledgeable on things like this but need to do something to rectify this situation and seem more lost

Jnewcomer 12-23-2020 08:50 PM

no other damage than that part from what I was shown


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