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Yves ZL1 12-01-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JSH (Post 10911774)
Willow Springs lap times. I don't see a 500 or Demon?

On the nurburgring :
7.26 2017 auto zl1
7.22 2018 gt3 rs

No bad..

JSH 12-01-2020 01:46 PM

Nurburgring
2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE M6
7.16.04


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Originally Posted by Yves ZL1 (Post 10911781)
On the nurburgring :
7.26 2017 auto zl1
7.22 2018 gt3 rs

No bad..


gtfoxy 12-01-2020 04:04 PM

I briefly considered a GT500 while looking for a ZL1. Prices were off the hook.

LT4 650 12-01-2020 04:57 PM

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Cool article...thanks for sharing. For all of you that own a ZLE you have an amazing track car and modern day muscle car. Me Likey.

But I like to 1/2 mile race and all that necessary downforce on the ZLE would hurt my top end so I went with the standard ZL1 and this car still looks BADASS. All my neighbors (seeing it backed into the garage...so they see the front end) call it the Bat Mobile...LMAO

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Vigilante375 12-01-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FH212 (Post 10723410)
I am with everyone else, I just dont get the interior complaints? The Recaros are comfortable as any seat made, the door panels are really nice, the dash layout and infotainment center is top notch. The ONLY complaint that can be made is the slightly cheaper looking top of the dash.....:noidea:

I think the center console could have been better. Maybe not have it a hard plastic look and feel.

dbs1 12-02-2020 12:11 AM

Forget worrying about the plastic GM. Throw an LT5 in the new model and let it eat!

gtfoxy 12-02-2020 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375 (Post 10911982)
I think the center console could have been better. Maybe not have it a hard plastic look and feel.

It’s not that at all.

These mag types all have fake chrome & wood grain on the brain because that’s what Ford/ Chrysler/ European cars have. They rave about Mahogany or (insert fake flavor of the day look) to make them feel good about their over-priced shitbox they think so highly of because ”Muh Upscale feelz”, when in reality it’s largely BS.

Yes, there are certain drawbacks of any interior. Nothing is perfect. For me I sat in a GT500 & thought, “Well, this is pretty lame.” compared to my 1SS. Yeah the seats where neat but that god awful steering wheel & square brick for a information center was lame. Just uninspired. It just didn’t turn me on. I sat in my ZL1 for the first time & I was ready to give the old lady the patented what for.

CW3SF 12-02-2020 08:54 AM

I rode in a brand new GT500 and was totally unimpressed. Interior was inferior to the ZL1 and the ride worse. It squeaked and popped over uneven ground and didn’t feel as “sturdy” as my ZL1. Not worth the premium $$$ IMHO.

arpad_m 12-02-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375 (Post 10911982)
I think the center console could have been better. Maybe not have it a hard plastic look and feel.

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Originally Posted by gtfoxy (Post 10912115)
It’s not that at all.

These mag types all have fake chrome & wood grain on the brain because that’s what Ford/ Chrysler/ European cars have. They rave about Mahogany or (insert fake flavor of the day look) to make them feel good about their over-priced shitbox they think so highly of because ”Muh Upscale feelz”, when in reality it’s largely BS.

Yes, there are certain drawbacks of any interior. Nothing is perfect. For me I sat in a GT500 & thought, “Well, this is pretty lame.” compared to my 1SS. Yeah the seats where neat but that god awful steering wheel & square brick for a information center was lame. Just uninspired. It just didn’t turn me on. I sat in my ZL1 for the first time & I was ready to give the old lady the patented what for.

gtfoxy, you're making a good point about perception, unfortunately those keep prevailing in reviews.

I for one think a little padding underneath the plastic surface, even using the same texture like those GM does on their SUVs, would be quite sufficient. But these are absolutely minor nitpicks, I generally couldn't care less about these plastic surfaces I almost never touch anyway.

maddad50 12-02-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfoxy (Post 10911904)
I briefly considered a GT500 while looking for a ZL1. Prices were off the hook.

Yeah carbon fiber track pack (which required to even deliver the basic performance of a non 1le) cars are
$50k over sticker. I passed.

Vigilante375 12-02-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfoxy (Post 10912115)
It’s not that at all.

These mag types all have fake chrome & wood grain on the brain because that’s what Ford/ Chrysler/ European cars have. They rave about Mahogany or (insert fake flavor of the day look) to make them feel good about their over-priced shitbox they think so highly of because ”Muh Upscale feelz”, when in reality it’s largely BS.

Yes, there are certain drawbacks of any interior. Nothing is perfect. For me I sat in a GT500 & thought, “Well, this is pretty lame.” compared to my 1SS. Yeah the seats where neat but that god awful steering wheel & square brick for a information center was lame. Just uninspired. It just didn’t turn me on. I sat in my ZL1 for the first time & I was ready to give the old lady the patented what for.

Im talking about the plastic that surrounds the transmission. The piece that separates the driver and passenger. That hard plastic.

GM could have put that rubber material over it at least to spruce it up a bit.

Joe603 12-04-2020 01:29 PM

Wow! Totally thought the GT500 would grab the top spot...most reviewers are taken by it. Cant wait to get my ZL1!

VADER332 12-05-2020 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LT4 650 (Post 10911924)
Cool article...thanks for sharing. For all of you that own a ZLE you have an amazing track car and modern day muscle car. Me Likey.

But I like to 1/2 mile race and all that necessary downforce on the ZLE would hurt my top end so I went with the standard ZL1 and this car still looks BADASS. All my neighbors (seeing it backed into the garage...so they see the front end) call it the Bat Mobile...LMAO

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Like the guys on Everyday Driver said of the ZL1.
"One of the most sinister looking cars on the planet."

JSH 12-05-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yves ZL1 (Post 10911779)
About thé challenger ... For me it has eaten too much hamburgers...lol

I selected my build specifically to outrun the Demon. My car is much lighter and has more power which pretty much covers the important bases.

I never see Chevrolet putting more power in a ZL1 than comes in the C7 Vette.


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