Said it before, and I'll say it again, but I agree with Baylor, and I feel the Camaro would do good to downsize a little, unless GM can pull off some miracle and keep it the same size AND drop 300+ lbs (yeah right).
Yes, the ATS is on a slightly smaller platform, but it IS a sedan...so I don't see any reason whatsoever why it can't be made to be coupe (Camaro). I know you all know this, but take a step back and look at the size of the 5th gen compared to the 4th gen and earlier. It is the odd ball out in terms of size and weight.....but I also feel it looks the best, but not b/c of the size. Same car but in ATS size would be fine by me. Mustang is shrinking...perhaps considerably. I don't think Camaro needs to go that small, nor would I really want it to, but it needs to stay pretty damn close to Mustang in terms of weight/power ratio and handling. How much of a fail would it be for the next "base" Mustang to weigh 3,100 to 3,200 lbs and Camaro base to weigh 3,500 lbs? It would be embarrasing. Some people just want a bigger car and don't care about the weight, and I have no issue with that. But these two cars are direct compeititors whether you may like it or not, and so whatever improvements Mustang makes (weight/power) Camaro should work to be competitive. Quote:
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If anything, the resurrected Chevelle should go on the LWB Alpha. |
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That concept shares a LOT with the Buick Riviera concept from a few months ago. |
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Wheelbase (in / mm): 109.3 / 2775 Length (in / mm): 182.8 / 4643 Height (in / mm): 55.9 / 1421 Width (in / mm): 71.1 / 1805 Track (in / mm): Front: 59.5 / 1512 Rear: 60.9 / 1548 2014 Camaro WHEEL BASE 9 ft. 4.3 in. (112.3 in.) LENGTH 15 ft. 10.6 in. (190.6 in.) HEIGHT 4 ft. 6.2 in. (54.2 in.) WIDTH 6 ft. 3.5 in. (75.5 in.) FRONT TRACK 5 ft. 3.7 in. (63.7 in.) REAR TRACK 5 ft. 4.1 in. (64.1 in.) 2015 CTS Wheelbase (in / mm): 114.6 / 2911 Length (in / mm): 195.5 / 4966 Height (in / mm): 57.2 / 1454 Width (in / mm): 72.2 / 1833 Track (in / mm): Front: 61.4 / 1560 Rear: 61.7 / 1568 |
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Unless Ford revives a Cougar, the platform design cost per unit will always be significantly higher than GMs plan for the ATS-Camaro. Assuming Camaro sales stay competitive with Mustangs. |
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The top brass claim the design is EVOLUTIONARY, not REVOLUTIONARY. They gave us a heads up with the squinty eyed front for 2014. Bumblebee from Tr 4 is just a continuation. Tail lights are 2014. Haunches will be a bit different (as in TR 4) just because it's shorter. They are pretty much hiding the 2016 in plain sight. :cool: ATS Coupe (shorter than sedan) is similar in size (larger wheelbase) to a Mustang. People who think they can't make a Camaro from that auspicious start are not engineers. |
ATS, CTS, and Camaro will be made on the same line in Lansing. I doubt there will be any similar cues in styling between them. They will only be made on the same production line.
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